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I got my Maine Snowmobile Association newspaper last week and read about the state’s proposed registration increases. It looks like non-resident registration will go up another $20 for next year. The interesting part was a state senator proposed a non-resident registration increases to $200.00 per sled. It shook things up and after thinking about it, the state committee shot it down and decided on the $20 dollar per sled increase. The increase is not officially there yet but it is coming. How do you feel about this.

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ICG    5

Sounds like a Democratic idea at it's finest. :(

Nothing, out of state residents can stop. . .

Wish the increases actually went to the clubs and / or into the trails. . . 

Would be curious what increases, instate registrations are planned? ?  ?

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What's new ??  <_<

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Same thing in NH.

Next increase is May 1st, 2023. But the resident will increase $20 and non-resident will increase $11 under current statute.

Non-resident will be $153. With a $30 club membership incentive discount, it will be  $123.

But no one is exactly sure how residents will respond to having a higher increase than non-residents... if at all.

In Maine, it may have been the residents wanted to push back and make the non-residents carry the increase.

 

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There is always an argument, especially for the residents in Maine that they should have a special low rate for fisherman. They think the full rate is too high for someone who just uses their sled for getting out on a lake. 

At first, it sounds reasonable, but managing it seems like it would be hard, and it would just be a backdoor way to get a lower price for trail riding. My guess is the ice fishing crowd will fight an increase for residents. 

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If you Google "Maine snowmobile registration fee increase" it appears that fee increase stories  are a constant.  

Here's the 2021 version:  http://legislature.maine.gov/bills/getPDF.asp?paper=HP0196&item=1&snum=130

130th Maine Legislature

An Act To Increase Funding for Snowmobile Trails and Capital Equipment Grants

L.D. 280

An Act To Increase Funding for Snowmobile Trails and Capital Equipment Grants

Be it enacted by the People of the State of Maine as follows:

Sec. 1. 12 MRSA §13104, sub-§4, as amended by PL 2015, c. 237, §2, is further amended to read:

4. Fee. Except as provided in subsection 5, the annual snowmobile registration fee is as follows:

A. For residents, $45 $55. The registration for a snowmobile owned by a resident is valid for one year, commencing on July 1st of each year; and

B. For nonresidents:

(1) Forty-nine Sixty-nine dollars for a 3-consecutive-day registration. A person may purchase more than one 3-day registration in any season;

(2) Ninety-nine One hundred and nineteen dollars for a seasonal registration; and

(3) Seventy-five Ninety-five dollars for a 10-consecutive-day registration. A person may purchase more than one 10-day registration in any season.

The registration for a snowmobile owned by a nonresident must specify the dates for which the registration is valid.

Five Ten dollars from each registration fee collected pursuant to this subsection must be transferred to a special fund administered by the Off-Road Vehicle Division of the Bureau of Parks and Lands within the Department of Agriculture, Conservation and Forestry. The funds must be used to assist any entity that has a snowmobile trail grooming contract with the Bureau of Parks and Lands in the purchase of trail-grooming equipment. The funds also may be used for the repair or overhaul of trail-grooming equipment.

Twelve Seventeen dollars from each resident snowmobile registration fee must be transferred to the Snowmobile Trail Fund of the Department of Agriculture, Conservation and Forestry, Bureau of Parks and Lands.

Six Twenty-one dollars from each nonresident 3-day snowmobile registration fee, $6 $21 from each nonresident 10-day snowmobile registration fee and $11 $26 from each nonresident seasonal snowmobile registration fee must be transferred to the Snowmobile Trail Fund of the Department of Agriculture, Conservation and Forestry, Bureau of Parks and Lands.

SUMMARY

This bill changes the resident and nonresident registration fees for snowmobiles and uses the increased fees to help fund the Snowmobile Trail Fund and the fund responsible for capital equipment grants. The fee for resident snowmobile registrations is increased by $10. The fees for nonresident snowmobile registrations are increased by $20.

 

 

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It is relatively cheaper than ours... but I think any increase brings out the complaints regardless of how long from the last increase.

 

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On 4/2/2021 at 1:52 PM, ICG said:

Sounds like a Democratic idea at it's finest. :(

Nothing, out of state residents can stop. . .

Wish the increases actually went to the clubs and / or into the trails. . . 

Would be curious what increases, instate registrations are planned? ?  ?

In the current proposal, it appears that all of the fee increase goes to the clubs and the trail system.

Looks like Maine residents pay about half of the non-resident rate. They took a $10 hit and non-residents took a $20 hit.

The bill's sponsor, Roland Danny Martin, is a Democrat. The Maine snowmobile association and several clubs spoke in favor of the bill. I don't know if the MSA or the clubs are Democratic.

 

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Clubs are non-profit, so they can't support a specific field of candidates or a specific candidate.

This was the mistake made several years ago when the IRS had to investigate certain non-profits.

Generally, all registration increases come directly from the representative groups... 

 

The only time that it has come from the outside and passed is for agent fee increases... which we generally don't protest.

 

 

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ICG    5

In the past the registrations/ trailpass funds went to The State of Maines  general fund,  then the clubs MSA had to lobby for funding.

 

 

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11 hours ago, ICG said:

In the past the registrations/ trailpass funds went to The State of Maines  general fund,  then the clubs MSA had to lobby for funding.

 

 

I believe you are right about that. Seems to me I remember reading that some of the money eventually goes to the towns. Some towns pass it on to the local club but not all (I think). 

If this increase is set up so that all of it goes into the system, it seems like a good way to go. 

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12 hours ago, PolarisCobra said:

 

I believe you are right about that. Seems to me I remember reading that some of the money eventually goes to the towns. Some towns pass it on to the local club but not all (I think). 

If this increase is set up so that all of it goes into the system, it seems like a good way to go. 

It's fair to say that Maine uses a different system than NH for funding trails. Maine makes much use of club and municipal grants to fund trails. Much of the registration fees are earmarked for snowmobile trails.  Note that higher  non-resident fees don't go to municipalities, the revenue goes to trails and law enforcement.

Here's a fee breakdown from a few years ago.

 

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Here's a description of club and county/municipal grants from a fews years back.

"The state has two types of snowmobile grants — club and municipal. The snowmobile clubs apply for the club grants and are paid $125 per mile for up to 30 miles. Any miles after 30 are the responsibility of the clubs. For municipal grants, the state pays the counties and towns to divide among clubs."

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How dare they! I am never going to go snowmobiling in Maine again! :rolleyes:

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I was curious about the status of Maine H.P. 196/LD280 (the snowmobile registration fee increase) so I took a look. The bill was sent to the IF&W Committee where sixteen people provided testimony on the bill.( http://legislature.maine.gov/bills/display_ps.asp?snum=130&paper=HP0196PID=1456# )

These 16 people represented the MSA, the clubs, state government, and businesses. Their written testimony reflects many of the same things I've heard from NH people involved in our trails.

The bill was reported out of the IF&W committee as Ought to Pass, and as of 3/30/2021 this bill was carried over to a subsequent session. 

 

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Sounds like they are making progress. No one likes higher prices, but I think this is the right thing to do. 

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