stinx 4 Report post Posted September 23, 2017 This was p[posted on the Winnipesaukee forum forum: Now to be the bearer of more bad news. The Seven Lakes Club thought they had a re-route around the section of Corridor 22 closed by the RR just south of Rt 171 (Old Granite Rd) down to behind the Big Moose RV where the trail jumps off of the rails, and back onto dirt. Last Spring the club Trail blazed a re-route to include the building of a bridge, to get us around that closure. Many man hours volunteered, and money spent. Found out over the summer that the new trail and bridge are not acturally on the owners land that gave permission. Miscalculated by a few feet! The owner of that land does not want anything to do with snowmobiles, and will not allow the trail to be on his land by even an inch. So there is still no way north or south from Ossipee down to the Cotton Valley RR trail to go to Wolfboro, Moose mountain, or elsewhere, without going all the way around to Wakefield via Corridor 19, and still having to depend on four lakes, Sandy Pond, Balch Lake, Lake Ivanhoe, and Great East Lake, being frozen. Sucks for me cause I live on the Cotton Valley Tracks (corridor 22&26) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CATRESERVE 248 Report post Posted September 23, 2017 No way to approach the REAL OWNER maybe even have Chris at trails bureau help out. Show the landowner all the non liability info and try it on a 1 year trail period. I guess it also depends on how close the trail is to the guys house. Good luck. It worked for us in Epsom to do a 1 year trail/probation period and now the owners are fine with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultrarider 29 Report post Posted September 23, 2017 I think the homeowner has his house on the market, and thinks that having the snowmobile trail over a very small portion of his yard, would be a deterrent for buyers. For me, it would be added value! 1 snorander reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rivercat 119 Report post Posted September 24, 2017 Trail access can be a valuable as waterfront to the right person! The current landowner needs to clearly understand that any new landowner can choose to leave it open or close it once the property is sold ,, the club needs to do a ONE YEAR written contract with the current landowner that clearly states that trail use is to be renewed ANNUALLY and can be closed during the season with a 1-10 day notice in the event of a trail issue, make it formal on club letterhead and have it signed by the president and trail master with the contact info of every officer and directors contact information,, I'd be shocked if this does not get the trail open for this year. 2 snorander and CATRESERVE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CATRESERVE 248 Report post Posted September 24, 2017 3 hours ago, rivercat said: Trail access can be a valuable as waterfront to the right person! The current landowner needs to clearly understand that any new landowner can choose to leave it open or close it once the property is sold ,, the club needs to do a ONE YEAR written contract with the current landowner that clearly states that trail use is to be renewed ANNUALLY and can be closed during the season with a 1-10 day notice in the event of a trail issue, make it formal on club letterhead and have it signed by the president and trail master with the contact info of every officer and directors contact information,, I'd be shocked if this does not get the trail open for this year. Sometimes we tend to give up to easily....when we can continue the conversation and turn the issue around. We are a professional organization and we should appear that way especially to our landowners. Face to Face works well for us! 2 Patriot and snorander reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rivercat 119 Report post Posted September 24, 2017 46 minutes ago, CATRESERVE said: Sometimes we tend to give up to easily....when we can continue the conversation and turn the issue around. We are a professional organization and we should appear that way especially to our landowners. Face to Face works well for us! Oh Yes, face to face, well dressed with the contract,,, not fresh off a trail work party!!!! 1 snorander reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom Rider 209 Report post Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, rivercat said: Oh Yes, face to face, well dressed with the contract,,, not fresh off a trail work party!!!! The one thing being overlooked in this project is that the club has already cut trail and built bridge on this persons property without permission thinking they were on someone else's land. NH has a very strong Timber Theft law and Criminal Trespass law's as well. Baby steps should be taken. I would involve Trails Bureau to smooth over rough edges and show the landowner it was an honest mistake that you were misled by an abutter and there was no ill intent. I have seen this same thing happen and Trails Bureau kept the club out of court and was able to negociate a use permit with BOT named instead of club. 1 smallengineguy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saluda 110 Report post Posted September 25, 2017 Sorry to hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
