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[slord 17]

I have only seen the original copy

[slord 17]

It looks to me like a new or renewing member does not have the option to not join NHSA.

[WINNOCTURN 60]

13 hours ago, slord said:

It looks to me like a new or renewing member does not have the option to not join NHSA.

 

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Membership Type:

--- Select ---IndividualFamily

	Dues are generated from the Club information Page. Club Information for Carroll County
	Club Name: Moultonboro Snowmobile Club Join this club  Individual Yearly Dues: 35 Family Yearly Dues: 35
Family Yearly Dues:

The Dues amount came over from what each Club puts in the  

The "Dues" when you join on the NHSA Website have 3 components 1: Club Dues, 2: NHSA Dues, 3: Processing Fee.

Examples: Club $20.00 Dues, 2: NHSA Membership $10.00, 3: Processing Fee $2.00. Dues paid through NHSA +$32.00.

                  Club $25.00, NHSA $10.00, Processing $2.00 Total $37.00  

The majority of Clubs have in the past included the NHSA Membership In the "Club" Dues. Typically a $35.00 would be $25.00 Club Membership, $10.00 NHSA Membership which included the SnoTaveler.

Typical wording on most Club Applications.

* Membership Dues Of which $10.00 is for your NHSA membership plus Snow Traveler Magazine; Application must be received by the15th of each month to get Snow Traveler on time) (Club $25.00, NHSA $10.00=$35.00)

$ 35.00

 

Some Club will be changing the format as to how the Dues are displayed

1: Club Dues $25.00 Check Here X    (this dollar amount can be set by each Club to what ever amount it feels necessary to support the Club.) 

2: Optional NHSA Membership $10.00  Check Here X

It not necessary to be a Member of NHSA to receive the $30.00 Club Snowmobile Registration Discount. A Club Membership Card, A paid Invoice, PayPal/Credit Card or a paid application at one of our Membership/Registration Agents is acceptable. Last on the List is the NHSA Voucher.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2016 by WINNOCTURN

[ljgomes 77]

14 hours ago, ckf said:

That will never happen Steve. The NHSA puts themselves first. The clubs are an afterthought to them.

Anyone who went to the Annual Meeting knows that first hand.   After the worst winter ever, they gave absolutely no support to clubs who are struggling to stay afloat.

[Freedom Rider 209]

22 minutes ago, ljgomes said:

Anyone who went to the Annual Meeting knows that first hand.   After the worst winter ever, they gave absolutely no support to clubs who are struggling to stay afloat.

Are you referring to the seminar on the use rectal cranial inversion in management of an Association?

[Freedom Rider 209]

13 hours ago, slord said:

It looks to me like a new or renewing member does not have the option to not join NHSA.

Could not be so lucky!!!

[jhwentworth 307]

13 hours ago, slord said:

It looks to me like a new or renewing member does not have the option to not join NHSA.

Yes, so a club offering a $25 dues level through the online portal will net $15 for that club, and pray for donations and lots of early registrations.

 

Edited July 19, 2016 by jhwentworth

[WINNOCTURN 60]

4 hours ago, jhwentworth said:

Yes, so a club offering a $25 dues level through the online portal will net $15 for that club, and pray for donations and lots of early registrations.

 

J.

There are 10 Clubs listed asking $20.00, 5 at $25.00 and 3 at $30.00 for Individual Memberships. (6 of the of 20 Clubs from 1 county are at the $20.00 or $25.00 level)

$20.00. $10.00 for the Club $10.00 for Roger

$25.00. $15.00 for the Club $10.00 for Roger

$30.00. $20.00 for the Club $10.00 for Roger

Not sure how the $20.00 Clubs do it?

Before the Mandatory fixing of the Due at $35.00 with the launch of the NHSA Online Membership website, there were quit a few other Clubs below the $35.00 level.

I usually join 2 other Clubs each Season, maybe I will re-think which 2 this Season?

 

George

 

Edited July 19, 2016 by WINNOCTURN

[RK-SXViper 144]

39 minutes ago, WINNOCTURN said:

Not sure how the $20.00 Clubs do it?

 

We pool our resources, work together and only spend within our means (I know spend within your means, what a concept). I may be wrong but I think some clubs are going to start making NHSA membership optional for non active members and ask for the extra $10 be put into the clubs maintenance fund. $10 for the association or $10 extra for the club, this season will be interesting as clubs get desperate to survive.

[PolarisCobra 132]

I remember talk when arguing about locking in one price for all, that there would be a 'race to the bottom' in pricing. Some felt that it would not be a problem, many people would pay the full $35 to join the club of their choice.

Looks like now it's seen as a problem. I really think that a flat price is the way to go, then entice people to join your club by providing a great riding experience. 

I don't have a problem with sending $10 of my dues to the NHSA, but I will say that I wish I had a better understanding of what happens to the money that they have. Not saying it's mis-spent, but it would be nice to see a budget at NHSAcom. 

It's shameful that this website doesn't work right nearly a year after the scheduled roll out.  

[Freedom Rider 209]

6 hours ago, PolarisCobra said:

I remember talk when arguing about locking in one price for all, that there would be a 'race to the bottom' in pricing. Some felt that it would not be a problem, many people would pay the full $35 to join the club of their choice.

Looks like now it's seen as a problem. I really think that a flat price is the way to go, then entice people to join your club by providing a great riding experience. 

I don't have a problem with sending $10 of my dues to the NHSA, but I will say that I wish I had a better understanding of what happens to the money that they have. Not saying it's mis-spent, but it would be nice to see a budget at NHSAcom. 

It's shameful that this website doesn't work right nearly a year after the scheduled roll out.  

Part of your $10.00 paid for the Abortion called Membership System that still doesn't work right.

[PolarisCobra 132]

It is a shame that this system doesn't work right at this stage, there is no excuse for it that I can see, and we certainly aren't getting any updates from the organization. 

I am willing to say that it makes sense to have the NHSA, and that they can do great things for the sport. But, they do need to step up communications and transparency for sure.

[jhwentworth 307]

On 7/18/2016 at 8:52 AM, WINNOCTURN said:

J,

I am glad it went through at the $25.00 + $2.00!

I am surprised that it did.

As for the listing by County screen all of the Club have the Join This Club "Button" but if you choose one that has not signed the Letter of Understanding or is delinquent in paying the NHSA Club Dues ($30.00) or has any outstanding debt from the 2025-2016 Season it will not show in the "SELECT CLUB" box. Only the "57" Clubs out of the 110 Club are in that drop down menu.

 "be certain that your Club membership dues are set at $35 for both single and family membership."

Apparently not all the Club are following orders! 

This may help.

Renew-Join NHSA.docx

 

It appears that the annual dues  shown on the online membership site for that $25 club have now changed to $35. 

[WINNOCTURN 60]

6 hours ago, jhwentworth said:

It appears that the annual dues  shown on the online membership site for that $25 club have now changed to $35. 

Yes, think Roger went ion and changed them.

[WINNOCTURN 60]

15 hours ago, WINNOCTURN said:

Yes, think Roger went ion and changed them.

There are 21 Clubs still listed below the $35.00 level. chances are they will not be processed if tried.

Attached is a complete list of these Clubs as of 11:05 7/22/16. There are some notes at the end explain what may be happening.

NHSA DUES LOWER THAN $35.00 7-22-16-A.docx

 

Edited July 23, 2016 by WINNOCTURN

[RK-SXViper 144]

10 hours ago, WINNOCTURN said:

There are 21 Clubs still listed below the $35.00 level. chances are they will not be processed if tried.

Attached is a complete list of these Clubs as of 11:05 7/22/16. There are some notes at the end explain what may be happening.

NHSA DUES LOWER THAN $35.00 7-22-16.docx

George, you have Rockingham clubs in your list of Merrimack clubs. Only the first two are Merrimack and the last four are Rockingham.

[WINNOCTURN 60]

1 hour ago, RK-SXViper said:

George, you have Rockingham clubs in your list of Merrimack clubs. Only the first two are Merrimack and the last four are Rockingham.

RK,

I will correct the list. That's what happens some times when you put this STUFF together after Midnight so your wife doesn't know your back on that damm PC. So I forgot to empty the Dishwasher that I promised to do 6 hours ago. What' more important?

 

Forgot to enter the Rockingham Header.

Club Information for Rockingham County (Total 4)

NHSA DUES LOWER THAN $35.00 7-22-16-A.docx

Thanks,

George

 

Edited July 23, 2016 by WINNOCTURN

[jhwentworth 307]

Checked today, and there are 64 clubs listed in the "Join This Club" menu on the online membership website. That leaves about 40% of NH clubs off the list. I don't know what that means, but there's still time before the usual members rejoin their clubs. Maybe a substantial number of clubs will choose to avoid the online system. I guess we'll have to wait until December to know the answer to that question.