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  1. Went on a great ride today on the west side of the state. Thank God I had the NHSA Trail App. MANY trails were poorly marked, or not marked at all. The App was super stable and got me back to where I needed to be. Many signs did not annotate fuel which was close by, etc. or some intersections had no signage at all. And I appreciate having a trail named (ie, John Smith trail), but PLEASE tell me on the sign WHERE that trail goes! Coming to an intersection on an unfamiliar system and seeing Smith trail to the left and Jones trail to the right can be an issue.

  2. Left from Meredith, took Corr 8 to Plymouth, shot over Corr 5 to Lyme and the VT border, south to Dorchester, Corr 24 back toward Groton/Hebron. Found Corr 11 back to Corr 8 and Plymoputh, ate lunch/fueled up and cruised back to Meredith. Most trails were OUTSTANDING. Did over 100 miles. NHSA Map App worked great! Great day overall, I've never ridden that side before, will definitely do it again!

  3. Per the Maine Snowmobile Association's website:

    Off Trail Riding
    It seems every year new issues rise to the top, and for the past several years the growth of off-trail riding has been hovering near the top of the list. This fall the MSA organized a discussion between landowners, outfitters and lodges to see if some agreement could be reached on how to get a handle on it. The primary concerns are safety, followed closely by property damage, particularly tree plantations, and what seems to be a sense of entitlement on the part of some riders.
    Off-trail riding has been an ongoing problem in southern and central Maine, with riders veering off marked trails on agricultural lands. These problems have been relatively easy to solve through a combination of signage and enforcement. The more recent issues are the result of the significant growth in sales of mountain sleds. Those sleds are becoming a good piece of the snowmobile market, and many riders mistakenly believe that their use in Maine is the equivalent of off trail opportunities in the western states.
    By tradition, most of Maine's forestlands are open to public use for a wide range of activities, including snowmobiling, with one important caveat: as long as those uses don't disrupt or damage their operations or place a burden to the landowners. They are, after all, in business to manage those lands to make a profit for their owners and investors. The snowmobile trail system is based on that understanding, which is why it isn't unusual to see trails rerouted or occasionally closed during the course of a season to accommodate logging operations or other activities that may be taking place on the land.
    Landowners spend a lot of money every year investing in their property and those investments may or may not show up under the snow. For example, hundreds of acres are replanted every year, and it is not the responsibility of the landowners to expend the time or money needed to educate off-trail riders as to where that is taking place.
    Additional issues are safety and liability on roads that may or not be plowed, have bridges out, gates or other hazards. Again, it is not the responsibility of landowners to keep off-trail riders informed of what is happening on their property.
    One of the outcomes of the meeting last fall was a general agreement that everyone is reluctant to pursue legislation to regulate this activity, at least for the time being. It is hoped that better education and more awareness of the issues will be enough to keep the activity under control. In the meantime, here is what riders can do to help keep this land open for all riders:
    Stay off all plowed roads. This is illegal, and presents a serious safety hazard. Those roads represent a significant investment and are intended solely for transporting wood and equipment. These roads may be in use 24/7 and are no place for sleds, private vehicles and trailers.
    The same goes for log yards. They may be empty when you arrive, but they are never intended to be parking lots for pickup trucks and trailers, they are for off-loading wood headed to the marketplace.
    Snow covers everything and that includes newly planted seedings or any number of obstacles or hazards. If you're unsure, check locally or just don't go. Keep in mind that calling the landowner isn't an option. Their employees are there to keep their operations moving, not to provide sledding updates to wannabee off-trail riders. Check with locals, or better yet Hire a guide. This is the first suggestion when people call the MSA office about off-trail riding. Guides are generally well connected to the forest landowners, know local conditions and can certainly help provide a high quality off-trail experience. There are also several lodges and outfitters in northern Maine that specialize in off-trail excursions.
    Hopefully this season will show that the education efforts will help reduce problems off trail that could affect snowmobiling across the state.


    Pretty self explanatory! Obviously the sport has taken the State by storm, and no one knows what to do about it.


  4. On ‎1‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 8:25 PM, gunmaker said:

    It doesn't matter what the sled manufacturers advertise and push, it still comes down to respect. If you don't RESPECT the wants of others, land owners, this will continue to happen. Maybe when people like this are caught, they need to be charged with trespassing not just "off trail" riding. I don't know.

    Wish it was that easy...Obviously, you (like me) haven't been a 20 something with a 800+cc mountain sled and a ton of fun-looking terrain in a while. Respect is taught, and it it ain't taught, it ain't learned! I think the idea of a MANDATORY OHRV course, where the off trail rules are taught, will help more than any other idea out there right now.

  5. On ‎1‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 6:38 PM, WideOpenOrNothin said:

    I took SmallEngines comment to you as;

    the manufacturers bear responsibility for disregarding for rules of the sport they promote, they did so by. Instead of educational/proper promotion. They promoted mountain sleds like everywhere in America is the Mid West. 

    As stewarts of the sport they took advantage of a money maker instead of what’s good in the long term 

    That's exactly what I said. If you're not TAUGHT respect, only that the snowy landscape is your canvas like the advertisement, then that's what you get.

  6. 20 hours ago, gunmaker said:

    It doesn't matter what the sled manufacturers advertise and push, it still comes down to respect. If you don't RESPECT the wants of others, land owners, this will continue to happen. Maybe when people like this are caught, they need to be charged with trespassing not just "off trail" riding. I don't know.

    I'm pretty sure when you go to a dealer and buy a mountain sled, the dealer isn't going to have a class on proper riding and landowner respect. They're going to take the money and hand over the sled, SO actually it DOES matter what the manufacturers push. Posters on the dealer walls of sleds side hilling and high marking. That's what you're SUPPOSED to do with the sled, so let's do it. If you're a 20 something making your first sled purchase, all you care about is the fun, not the consequence.