Freedom Rider

So it is as was said in other posts earlier is the party that dropped the ball, not legislation. Time for passing of the buck. Dennis Etchels any comments? Feedback?

May all have a special holiday with their loved ones and all that they cherish. Treat those around you better than you expect to be treated.Please remember thus when giving to your local club you support. Give more money and help for them to work with. so they can do more to make you a happy responsible snowmobiler. Go only where it is posted legal to go. Carry in, carry out. Please be considerate of the awesome landowners who give the club's something more valuable than money. The use of their property so that anybody registered in the State can use it with no income or tax break received for doing so. Go to a meeting and shake the hand and say hi to those that set their families and family life on hold just to make sure you have a pleasurable experience. Again may God Bless all of you and keep loved ones close and safe. Watch over our club volunteer.

Very well put Armand. I wish you a very merry Christmas.

The person who wrote the subject for the thread included NHSA in it. It was not twisted and inserted.Valium may help the temper a little.

I guess you now more than when you asked for information from them.

I would not want them to oversee a case vs. somebody. It would be judge, jury, and executioner. If you read the story and then watch the F&G Monthly meetings (on video) you will find a big contradiction as most of the comments on video is that financially they are fine. It is just that they don't want to spend "their" money.

http://www.unionleader.com/news/courts/snowmobile-group-sued-over-change-in-governing-documents/article_dea0ebf5-fec6-5886-9d4e-9b9b5e986a12.html Just put in online newspaper under an hour ago. Looks like court tomorrow.

You get serviced ok. Dry and hard, no lube either. New group will probably be another way for you to have to buy a voucher to join a club and buy another voucher to register your sled. Here is a video of the County Directors at last NHSA Board meeting when someone had a good idea to help the sport or their respective clubs. Does this look familiar to you guys Rob or Dirt Dummy? https://www.facebook.com/ActiveHire.co.uk/videos/1813861348703779/

I hear this may be new model for next season especially with all of the global warming it may come in handy.Gotta love Old Iron buddy!

No I have not been able to get there. Still recuperating and handling medical issues is taking up all of my "fun" time. Didn't even get to go to County Meeting. The Derry Club location meeting is always a great meeting. Many fine folks with outstanding food. They could feed an army there and all of it is first class.

I found a parts diagram for your winter ride. Newest parts diagram availble. I kope this will help you diagnose sliding around problem.

He is more than likely one who keeps a separate spreadsheet of membership.When compared to report that system generates doesn't jive he looks up to see what is off. Example his club spreadsheet may say they sold 75 memberships directly (non POS Portal) and the combined NHSA Portal Spreadsheet may say 84 including club sold direct and 9 sold through NHSA POS Portal. If your club doesn't do the extra work in running a comparison you could have been out of luck. The system was pushed through to reduce labor by volunteers yet it created much more.To join club and get voucher through club the membership must recieve application. Enter all info into club Portal. Print voucher ID number. Send to the club. It also ended the supporting businesses such as dealers and repair shops who are registration agents from doing one stop shopping. Which is the point you are looking to be made. POS is Point of Sale system that you used.

Here are some numbers that I had posted before. When I compared return on investment into GIA program using new proposed increase vs. Doing away with registration discount or leave everything alone i figured a percent return factor. The best for the club, the consumer, and the trails is by far just everyone choosing to not buy discount and then the $30.00 goes directly into Trails program and the club gets funding. Doing away with and proposing increases both require Lobbyist and full legislative law change. Existing Resident with no discount = 82.02% goes into GIA Proposed increase = 54.12% into GIA. Posted July 26 New suggested registration rate proposed by NHSA Committee. $120.00 per sled for residents after discount This means $32.81 going to F&G This means $1.00 goes to F&G Search and Rescue This means $5.00 agent fee and transaction fee $34.18 is amount of additional funds to be used by Trails Bureau for trail grooming and summer maintenance. This equals a total $81.18 per new registration cost going to GIA and Trails Bureau for trails. No more grooming equipment or groomer maintenance (Refurbs) Clubs will get an increase in grooming hours actually groomed. Low snow means no money for club to pay cost of owning groomer Cost increase per registration to resident $54.00 per sled if joining club and buying discount from NHSA at an average cost of $20.00 for club and $10.00 NHSA to buy discount. Cost for discount by sled using average price club membership 1 sled- $30.00 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $150.00 2 sleds- $15.00 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $135.00 3 sleds- $10.00 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $130.00 4 sleds- $7.50 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $127.50 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current registration rate $66.00 for resident with discount This equals $47.00 going to GIA and Trails Bureau for trails This equals $13.00 going to F&G This means $1.00 goes to Search and Rescue. This means $5.00 agent fee and transaction fee 1 sled- $30.00 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $96.00 2 sleds- $15.00 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $81.00 3 sleds- $10.00 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $76.00 4 sleds- $7.50 actual cost to buy discount to register sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee is $73.50 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current registration cost for resident without discount being bought $96.00 This equals $77.00 going to GIA and Trails Bureau for trails This equals $13.00 going to F&G This means $1.00 goes to Search and Rescue. This means $5.00 agent fee and transaction fee ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Percentage of cost of registration going to GIA and Trails Program New proposed Registration 1 sled- $30.00 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $150.00 per sled to register. $81.18 Trails Program= 54.12 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program 2 sleds- $15.00 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $135.00 per sled to register. $81.18 Trails Program= 60.13 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program 3 sleds- $10. actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $130.00 per sled to register. $81.18 Trails Program=62.44 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program 4 sleds- $7.50 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $127.50 per sled to register. $81.18 Trails Program=63.67 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current registration with discount 1 sled- $30.00 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $96.00 per sled to register. $47.00 Trails Program= 48.95 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program 2 sleds- $15.00 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $81.00 per sled to register. $47.00 Trails Program= 58.02 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program 3 sleds- $10. actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $76.00 per sled to register. $47.00 Trails Program=61.84 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program 4 sleds- $7.50 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $73.50 per sled to register. $47.00 Trails Program=63.94 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current registration no discount Current registration cost for resident without discount being bought $96.00 $77.00 Trails Program=80.02 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program We all know more funding is needed for the trails program. How do you do that without raising registration cost to the point of pushing people to other states, out of the sport, or just not registering and run illegally. To me, based on above info, the most return for a resident registering a sled as far as investing in Trails is as follows: Current registration cost for resident without discount being bought $96.00 $77.00 Trails Program=80.02 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program Current registration with discount 1 sled- $30.00 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $96.00 per sled to register. $47.00 Trails Program= 48.95 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program New proposed Registration 1 sled- $30.00 actual cost to buy discount per sled inc. club membership and NHSA fee. Total is $150.00 per sled to register. $81.18 Trails Program= 54.12 % of cost goes to GIA and trails program I think the discounted registration program has run its course. Time to remove it from the RSA. Clubs that do a good job on it’s trails and membership programs will still get people to join. Clubs that don’t will have problems. I think paying $96.00 per sled for resident resulting in $77.00 into GIA and trails program @ 80.02 % return into program is much better than $150.00 per sled with discount for resident resulting in $81.18 into GIA and trails program @ 54.12 % return into GIA and Trails Program. As residents what do you think? It is a $54.00 resident registration increase per sled. No more groomer equipment support from GIA for clubs.

All of the following numbers come from the NHF&G Law Enforcement Report for NHSA Meeting – May 19, 2018. • The five-year snowmobile registration average is 41,160 • 35% Nonresidents and 65% Residents • 86% were club members that used the $30 discount. 1) 41,160 (average member registrations) x 65% (NH residents) = 26,754 (Average yearly NH resident registrations) 2) 26,754 x 86% (Discount use) = 23,008 (Average Yearly Registrations that used the discount) 3) 23,008 x $30 (Money that would have gone to Grant-In-Aid) = $690,240 (Average Yearly Income that would have gone to Grant-In-Aid) 4) $690,240 x 14 years (Time since the discounted was enacted) = $9,663,360