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"NHSA Menu Selections “Snowmobilers” “Club Membership” REQUESTED REVISION https://www.nhsamembership.com/createaccount.php Revised Menu to show the difference between the NHSA Clubs Online Membership Portal and the Club Database Portal When one uses the “SNOWMOBILES” MENU you enter what has been the CLUB DATABASE Portal. Up until last Season this Menu selection was only used by the CLUBS as a MENBERSHIP DATABASE PORTAL. The “Create a Membership Account” was activated and used by some 30 Clubs. Because of the changes in what would be the Accepted “Document” to Register a Snowmobile and receive the $30.00 Discount, the number has doubled. I would not doubt the participation in the program would include all of the NHSA Clubs. With this a most likely to happen this Season. What I am requesting is that these 2 “SITES” be separated and given their own Menu Selections. This is Item has now and will be for the future a highly Trafficked Site. At present its placement looks as an afterthought. See suggested CHANGES. NHSA Menu Selections.doc

How many "FAMILY MEMBERS" got 2 Magazines? My Wife and I both received a Magazine. Personally I prefer the "ONLINE" version. I Read what I want and may at times Print out an Article. Cost to NHSA ???

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Have any of the Club Membership Officers heard from NHSA on their giving "BLOCKS" of VD/ID Numbers to support Club "Online Membership Web Pages" and "Dealer" Application? I had talked to Beth shortly after the NHSA Annual Meeting and it seamed there may be a way of doing this. We stand to loose 61% of our Membership by not having these these 2 Membership Option available this Season. The Doller Value is in the 5 Digit area. This not only is it the Membership Sales but it also effects the Sales of Decals and Map, but above all $$ DONATIONS $$ !!!!!! I heard through the "Grape Line" that "PITSBURG has Requested Blocks of Numbers???? I would appreciate any feedback you my have. After getting our HEADS handed to us by JLCARR on the FnG Proposals I have tried to forget this mess and Enjoy the SUMMER!

Dave, Some things are more important than Snowmobiling. My deepest sympathies on your lose of your brother. George

Dave, I CHALANGED YOU 12 DAYS AGO TO PUBLISH YOUR PROOF of ABUSE. WHERE IS IT ??????!

RiverCat (27 Hours and no reply) "With the system that has been in use, there is PROOF that abuse of the system was happening" "I AM CALLING YOU OUT ON THIS ONE, REACH FOR YOUR GUN!" NOT ALL THE COWBOYS ARE IN LOUDEN TODAY!" I CHALANGE YOU TO SHOW ME/EVERYONE THAT PROOF! IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 2012 F&G AUDIT THAT JOHN WIMSATT QUOATED, IT DOES NOT EXIST IN THAT AUDIT! THE MAIN BODY OF THE AUDIT WAS ABOUT REGISTRATION DECALS. THERE WERE NUMEROUSE BOOKS OF DECALS THAT COULD NOT BE ACCOUNTED FOR. ONE INSIDENT THAT WAS QUTOED ABOUT IN THE AUDIT WAS ABOUT 2 BLOCKS OF DECALS BEING FOUND IN A CLEANING CLOSIT. THE OTHER COMMENT WAS THAT F&G WERE LAX IN THE NUMBER AND FREQUANCY THAT F&G PERFORMED ANY AUDITS. I CHALANGE YOU TO POST YOUR PROOF OF YOUR SUPOSED ABUSE!!! STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME DEPARTMENT OFF HIGHWAY RECREATIONAL VEHICLE REGISTRATION PROGRAM INTERNAL CONTROL OVER REVENUE NOVEMBER 2012 FG_OHRV_2012 Audit.pdf MY FINDINGS OF THE 2012 F&G Audit THAT JOHN WIMSATT QUOATED. 2012 F&G Audit Findings.pdf I am mad as hell and I am not going to take IT any more!!!!

As they say in Mass, IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! Rob, do you remember Ben Dover? How do we get the RSA 215-C:39 CHANGED OR REMOVED? TITLE XVIII FISH AND GAME CHAPTER 215-C SNOWMOBILES Section 215-C:39 215-C:39 Registration Fees. – The fees to be collected under this chapter are as follows: I. Individual resident registration--$90 for each snowmobile registration upon presentation of a valid driver's license issued to a New Hampshire resident 18 years of age or older. An individual resident registering a snowmobile who provides proof, at the time of registration, that the individual is a member of an organized New Hampshire nonprofit snowmobile club which is a member of the New Hampshire Snowmobile Association shall pay $60 for each snowmobile. Start at Section 215-C:39 Link to Complete version of Chapter 215-C http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/xviii/215-c/215-c-mrg.htm

MSC stands to possibly loose up to $18,000 next Season if we can not continue our ONLINE Membership and our DEALER Memberships. These 2 avenues of Memberships made up for 61% of our Membership this year.WE need "VD Numbers" to operate these Systems. I will be contacting Beth this week to open up a Discussion we had on NHSA working with Clubs by possibly granting "Blocks of VD Numbers to keep Clubs functioning. NHSA has NO WAY of handling the Dollar Amount of DONATIONS, Sales of MAPS and Decals that are generated at the time someone makes out an Application to join our Club. Example of High dollar donations, $300.00 or even $500.00 are not uncommon. IT's what you call ONE STOP SHOPPING. I am all for Changing the RSA and eliminating the Discount. With out the Discount Clubs could possibly LOWER their "DUE" by the $10.00 built-in to cover the NHSA. You would only Need to join THE CLUB. What's been TRASHED here is the simple language of "YOU MUST BE A "MEMBER OF A CLUB" that is a Member of NHSA to qualify for the Discoun It's either sit in my "Recliner" all Day or be obsessed with this 24 hours a days! It's one of the advantages of being RE-TIRED. Number of People who viewed this post form WINNI.COM since 11:40 AM (2:21pm) VS maybe 3 on SLEDNH! WINNI 4:43 72 (+23) as of 7-22 166 IT"S TIME TO WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone remember when SLEDNH played a Key role in getting the Castle Trails Reopened? Link to SNOWMOBILE FORUM on winnipesaukee.com https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22

Results of JLCAR Hearing results 6/16/18 JLCAR Action: OBJECTION How to find site: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/nholsrulesdbsearch/RuleDetail.aspx

George, It was great seeing the Surprise on your face when you name was called out! GREAT JOB!

After a brief talk with NHAS President Beth Horvath-Palmer, at the NHSA Annual Meeting, she will try to setup a meeting with the NHSA Officers and Directors to discuss the situation on ID Numbers.:)The loss of having the ID Numbers ahead of time effects 61% of our anticipated Annual Memberships. Mailed in Applications seem to be a way of the PAST. Letter: 05/20/18 To: Beth Horvath-Palmer PRESIDENT NHSA Results of a talk with Beth. Beth, Thank you for taking the time to listening and offer to take this matter up with the Board. I and my Clubs concerns are how Clubs will be affected by the loss of the ability of using Club generated ID Numbers that we issue our Members so they can Register their Sleds and receive the $30.00 Discount. Fish and Game has now made NHSA the only source of "ID" Numbers. My main concern at the present time is My Club and other Clubs that have multiple Sources of generating membership will not, without "Blocks" of ID Numbers", be able to use our Agent Dealer Membership locations and Online Membership Websites as we need the ID Number ahead of time to function. It is my hope that we could work a plan where Clubs that have these multiple sources for generating Memberships could receive "Blocks" of "ID" Numbers before the Season started. The Clubs would have the responsibility of accounting for these Numbers. A more detail plan would need to be worked out. I have attached a newer copy of the memo I presented you yesterday at the Annual Meeting that I hope makes it clearer to understand what I am asking. After reading the memo again this morning, I had trouble making sense of it. It looked clear to me yesterday morning when put it to gather. This version should be clearer to read and understand. Again thanks for listening to me. George Higgins Membership Chairman, Moultonboro Snowmobile Club

Skip, Skip, You were lucky getting your Information. The last time I asked, I had to Submit a "FOIA" Request? The answer, "WE KNOW NOTHING"! Ya Vol Some things do not happen as planed. F&G has missed possible 3 Filing Dates so far. I think they were try for filing this past Friday 5/18/18. We hear the JLCAR hearing maybe in July. On the subject of ID Numbers, On the bright side of this matter, NHSA President, Beth Horvath-Palmer is trying to arrange at meeting with the Board of Directors to discuss the situation. I ran some Numbers Saturday for the Annual Meeting and if this goes through with NHSA being the ONLY source of "ID" Numbers, MSC could stand to loos 61% of its' Revenue! This includes Revenue from Online Membership, Agent Application, Donations, Maps and Decals. Hopefully this Meeting will resolve these concerns. Thank you, Beth. George See you on Winni.com

John, With that said I do not think it will be that easy with a change in the software to add another "SECURE" Page to make this type of Transaction. "The CLUB Membership" portal/Database is Secure and requires a Password. At the bottom of the Login Block you will find this link to is the "NEW" Club Online Portal that Clubs have to join to do "ONLINE MEMBERSHIPS with the actual Clubs. Click here to create a membership account. I talked to one of our PRIME Membership AGENTS and he just shook his head in disbelief at what NHSA/Fn&G are trying to pull off? If it is not late any of the Clubs that have not turned in the Delegate List to NHSA for the ANNUAL MEETING do it NOW if it is not too Late? What ever you maximum NUMBER of DELEGSTS you have get EVERYONE OF THEM TO ATTEND and voice their DISCUST for both NHSA and FIDH & GAME are trying to pull off. NO MORE AJENT APPLICATION WITH REGISTRATIOM ID NUMBERS AND NO MORE CLUB ONLINE MEMBERSHIP WEBPAGES! Please go back and read my RESTRAINT OF TRADE AND MONOPOLY statement. If that "MEETING" Saturday did not prove everything I said, I do not know where we go to next. 60% of our MEMBERSHIP came from our 3 Membership Agents and Online Membership Webpage. 633 Members/3rd largest Club in NH. That equals $23,000 in Revenue we may not be able to duplicate under the new terms Fn&G and NHSA are FORCING US TO WORK UNDER NHSA, New HAMPSHIER SNOWMOBILE ALLIANCE? ITS ABOUT TIME FOR A CHANGE! ONE WAY TO FIX THE PORBLEM? GET RIDE OF THE DAMM RUDUCED REGISTRATION FEE! LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD! HONHER the wording of the RSA MEMBER OF A CLUB THAT IS A MEMBER OF nhsa! Fn&G and NHSA have TRASHED the meaning of the RSA. I will definitely be at our Carroll County Meeting this coming Wednesday Night. Be there it could be FUN! If you are not in Carroll County please got to your County Meeting!!!! Invitation: NHSA County meeting @ Wed May 2, 2018 7pm - 8pm 2:22 AM and my wife just said, from the Bedroom, are you still on that DAMM Computer!!!!!!!!!!!!! OPEN HERE: 1-Restraint of Trade Quentions.docx