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  1. 9 points

    Sno-Traveler story

    NHSA is living in the past. Snowmobile ownership has peaked and is slowly declining. Clubs have had to tighten their belts and its time for NHSA to do the same. They need to think about downsizing in a big way so more money stays with the clubs and is not spent by them. NHOHVA is a good model to follow. They are operating with a virtual office and quarterly meetings are held at schools or public buildings in various locations around the state. All communications are done via the Internet. The current system of county directors should be scrapped and replaced with direct input from the clubs. They can outsource the grass drags, get rid of the SnoTraveler, dump the office, have staff members work out of their homes and the entire operation can be run on less than $100k per year using the profit from the Grass Drags. No money at all from the clubs.
  2. 8 points
    957 mi. We did three trips up to Pittsburg. Best photo was of my wife on Diamond Ridge in January.
  3. 7 points
    And about 175 groomer hours also!!!
  4. 7 points
    Our membership is up....we see the money but never see the faces. A problem all clubs have. We need more snow so this forum will get back into sledding pictures, stories, how to get to here or there, etc. That is what I enjoy.... Sick of the negative, negative, negative....get enough of that in the NEWS. My glass is always 1/2 fullnot
  5. 6 points
    Quite obvious that you don't ride in the south or even realize what goes on there with the clubs who bust their asses to keep trails open for people who wish to ride their sleds instead of trucks. There are no $300,000.00 groomers down here. I do not think there are any in the whole state. The newest groomers that I know of are the Mid 2000 vintage groomers that SNHSS have for full size and 2009 ASV Scout the NCP has. Kingston runs a nice older model Pistonbully. Derry runs an older BR, and Newfields runs a mid 90's Tucker. Nothing new just well cared for. NCP runs a 1973 Thiokol. The last GIA funding for a groomer purchase in Rockingham County was in 2009. I bet if you totaled all of the groomers values it would not equal buying a 5 year old machine. Out of these listed they take nothing away from the North Country as you may think. The whole County combined receives less than 1 club above the notches as far as grooming money.Yet the SNHSS is consistently in the top 3 when it comes to membership size. What does closing trails in the south have to do with increasing funding in the north? It will help the demise of the sport we all love. Many families like to ride out of their homes when conditions allow. Many count on that to share the experience with the youngsters. That is how many have come to be involved with snowmobiling.Not many with young kids would risk their safety by bringing them to Pittsburg for a first ride.The local clubs in the south along with clubs to our west do a standup job promoting the family sport of snowmobiling, not just the rich, young mans sport.There are many State Parks and Rail Trails in the south and western parts of the state. They are maintained by the volunteers of the clubs that you would like to be shuttered. Those volunteers give many the benefit of well maintained trails year round. They do so on the clubs dime not the states. Maybe you would rather see higher taxes to pay for it instead. Try getting involved in a club closer to where you live to see why closing them is not a very smart option. You will probably find you will make many more friends than you will going north.These clubs are part of the community. It is not businesses that thrive from them but many local residents.who appreciate what they give back. If all trails south of notch's were closed how well do you think the trails in Coos County would be? You wouldn't be able to make anything better with the amount of money that was spent south of there.Money doesn't replace snow nor does putting 40,000 snowmobiles in 5 clubs trail systems. After 10:00 am trails would be destroyed. People would be pissed and then ride at night following the groomers as that would be only time trails would be flat. Trails wouldn't even have time to set up properly. Now that would improve the snowmobile experience how? How would you personally enjoy riding your $20,000.00 worth of sleds after sitting in your $50,000 dollar truck for 4 hours? Then after another 50 mile day of riding moguls dodging a sled every 100 yards and a mogul every 50 feet have to get back in your truck and ride 4 hours home. Wicked pissa huh? Sport will be thriving. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  6. 6 points


    REGISTER RIGHT to keep it FLAT and WHITE. 1 Dump the discount, put the $30 where it will do the most to keep it FLAT and WHITE, the Trails Bureau (Grant in Aid). Remember the $30 is now $18 because you have to throw away $12 to get $30 and by registering this way it should put off the proposed registration increase to $150 to $180 per sled. 2 Join a Club to keep it FLAT and WHITE, where you live, ride, or both and yes the money helps but the money and your involvement makes a difference, remember most trails are maintained and groomed by club volunteers. 3 Be nice, say please and thank you, treat people like you would like or expect to be treated. 4 Stay away from associations that are only concerned with there bottom line 5 Remember not everyone rides the same sled as you or has the same riding style. We are all snowmobilers and if we work together, support each other, respect landowners and law enforcement we can MAKE SNOWMOBILING GREAT AGAIN. THANKS Dave Copeland
  7. 6 points
    Getting to the end of the season for me back to daily work...so had to get out and get in my last licks. Rode on Sat and invoked in some Trail Side cooking at the "Big Pine Tree" for maybe the last time this season. Enjoyed a great day of riding. Sunday rode with Coldbrew, Noxorc, and Mark B. Great too finally ride with these guys this season. Where has the season gone? Took in some great scenery, good riding...90% great trails, good fellowship and overall wonderful time as usual. Not a lot of traffic at all either! Got a bit of Gopro footage that will have to last me into the summer before I hunger for more. Will post some later! Nice to meet some new people on the trails as always...I guess I have become too social...who ME! You never know whom you may meet...nice to meet you President Phil of the Derry Pathfinders...Pres to Pres! Thanx guys for riding!
  8. 5 points
    The logic and arguments about off trail anything (Snowmobiling, ATV's, dirt bikes etc) is getting older than dirt, and not much ever seems to get resolved. Back in the day, I rode dirt bikes in Northern Mass. pretty much anywhere and never really had any issues with access to where we wanted to ride. We did make a mess of things in muddy areas, but never really got in trouble. Started riding Pittsburg in the early 80's when there was less traffic, hardly any long track dedicated mountain vehicles, and went into some areas that were definitely off trail, limited only by where we dare take a trail sled. Often times during that period of time, we would bump into Fish and Game out there and they were only concerned with us knowing where we were and how to get out safely. Between then and now, the evolution of the average sled has taken a definite turn towards off trail design, long,deep paddle tracks, giant motors, riser bars all contribute to comfort hitting it hard on mountain terrain. A visit to any gas stop in the area shows that the popularity of this type of sled is dominating the trails as well as "protected areas". The manufacturers of these machines could care less if people use them in protected areas, and are in a sense, shooting themselves in the foot, by causing trail closures and related problems which impact future sales. Another issue that has not been raised is the level of damage that paddle tracks cause on groomed trails, even with careful riding. You only have to follow a deep paddle rider to see the impact of one pass on fresh groomed snow. The clubs end up on the receiving end of complaints that the frequency of passes is inadequate. Complex issues that are weaved together in a mix of cause and effect that has no simple resolution............ pathfinder
  9. 5 points
    Old Thumper

    United Snowmobile Alliance

    "dedicated to serving our members" That doesn't sound like anything that NHSA would be interested in …
  10. 5 points

    Trail Side Cooking Time....

    It was a good day to get out and start off the trail side cooking season. The warmer temps made it easier to be able to stop and cook without freezing to death. Nothing like beans and hotdogs on the trail with friends topped off with some good riding!
  11. 4 points

    We have a bridge!

    Evergreen Valley Snowmobile Club in Milton had a trail closure because of a bad town bridge in Union. We had lots to do, and it took several weeks, but with the hard work of many, including folks from other clubs, we have reopened corridor 26 from Milton to Moose Mountain.
  12. 4 points
    The Look and Feel of Winter and SNOW... Nothing like it unless you hate the cold (then move!). Sitting down, having my morning coffee, looking out the window and just relaxing with the winter wonderland presented to me. Then out to start grooming my camp trail access and install a small bridge. It was good to have some cold weather to start freezing things up...now time for the snow to fall and NOT rain. Headed back home in the afternoon... ugh! Work gets in the way of everything.
  13. 4 points
    Freedom Rider

    United Snowmobile Alliance

    You get serviced ok. Dry and hard, no lube either. New group will probably be another way for you to have to buy a voucher to join a club and buy another voucher to register your sled. Here is a video of the County Directors at last NHSA Board meeting when someone had a good idea to help the sport or their respective clubs. Does this look familiar to you guys Rob or Dirt Dummy? https://www.facebook.com/ActiveHire.co.uk/videos/1813861348703779/
  14. 4 points

    So lets keep this forum positive...

    We get enough negative in everyday life from the idiots on the news. I have posted in the past to keep it positive on here so lets do it. HCS used to be the sled bashing format but that has cleaned up a bit toward the positive and but also has less comments that usual. Keep in clean and keep it fun...and lets invite our younger and newer sledders to chime in and post some FUN STUFF. Seems like when any forum goes ROGUE and NEGATIVE...a new forum pops up somewhere else and we all move to it. Lets get it back to normal and have some fun...so when the riding starts we are in the BIG POSITIVE ATTITUDE. I am starting it off with a nice high peak cooking photo. Can't wait! I look at photos and videos all summer! Might be hot lemonade in the cup....
  15. 4 points

    Special Meeting

    One other item, fire the lawyer. The whole idea of suing the AG's office was asinine.
  16. 4 points
    About 650, not bad considering every ride included my wife, a 3 year old and 7 year old. Some days it felt it would be easier to go to the moon than get everyone out on the snow.
  17. 4 points
    Zack and I did get out on Monday and it was sweeet. Just stayed around camp area...probably my last ride for the season. Nobody else around...not that it surprised us. Looking for moose...got close but didn't see them. "There is always next season we say" and how quick the snowmobile season comes and goes and then we say it again... We have pictures and videos so we can savor the moments once again at a later date...usually on a hot summers day. How nice it is to be able share these photo op's...with friends, family, fellow sledders and others. Always have to include pictures!
  18. 4 points
  19. 4 points
    We had a GREAT turnout with almost 60 vintage machines on display, and many of them were riding around enjoying the snow and great weather. Saw lots of old friends, made some new ones, ate lots of good food, with vintage sleds riding around everywhere. About as perfect a day as it gets... Thank you to everyone that came out to enjoy the day with us!
  20. 4 points
    I was in that area on Sunday,it was very good and I will be heading there more often,it's nice to explore a new area now and again. I even saw the Wolfmans cave and house.
  21. 4 points

    Trail Side Cooking Time....

    Went out for a rip today....took a sandwich and brewed up some coffee along the way. Guess everyone gave up or was heading somewhere to watch the Pat's...nobody out riding. Saw 6 sleds and enjoyed the day. Took advantage of the snow while it is here before a tease of snow and then R***and miss the first 1/2 of the game. Pat's may blow it anyway!
  22. 3 points

    172 mile ride on Saturday

    It was great, but I sure am feeling it today....
  23. 3 points

    Attn Attn Attn

    I heard a rumor that to reduce costs for the website, John tried converting to LED bulbs. Apparently they don't break as easy.........
  24. 3 points
    Freedom Rider

    United Snowmobile Alliance

    The person who wrote the subject for the thread included NHSA in it. It was not twisted and inserted.Valium may help the temper a little.
  25. 3 points

    Snowy winter on tap?

    We hada couple tornados touch down here in RI. This is a pic a friend took. Can’t identify if it’s a water spout although he did say photo was taken in direction of the Sakonnet River
  26. 3 points
    Coldbrew, Snorander, Noxorc
  27. 3 points

    * official old pic thread*

    Shifty...hard to believe it's been 2 years since our sons took the safety class together. The mini z had many hours between my son and daughter...that sled was going nonstop. Dad had quite a workout shoveling piles of snow for their jumps!
  28. 3 points

    * official old pic thread*

    2011 Shifty Ride!
  29. 3 points

    * official old pic thread*

    My oldest on my snorander special ‘12. And my youngest on his first sled ‘11 or 12. He’s 15 and 6’4 now.
  30. 3 points

    Balsams News - Can't be good

    Heard for a reliable source that Les Otten was anticipating the sale of nearly a billion dollars in real estate. Plan is for a four season resort, so not 100% dependent on winter sports. I agree they need to make the numbers work without state help. If I had known it would sell for $2m I would have figured out how to buy it and run it as it was. Golf course alone is worth $7m, or that's what it would cost to build it. Buildings were fine, but not good enough for fancy NY guests at $400 a night. Sledders and normal folk would have kept it full for $100 a night, even with crappy old furnishings. Over 7500 beautiful acres, golf course and ski slopes for $2M. AMAZING. Just drop the elite appeal and drop the prices.
  31. 3 points
    I asked these questions in a previous post in this thread, but no response. I find it interesting that while there's a good deal of talk here about the roles and responsibilities of the NHSA and the clubs, you seldom hear any official statements from either party. From what I read, neither the clubs or the NHSA even have an opinion of the club discount. The NHSA floated a trial balloon on registration increases, but I haven't heard any responses from a club either pro or con. Could be just the summer season I guess. Haven't heard any NHSA or club statements about how the issues around club memberships might be resolved. Probably summer season again. Probably in October we'll hear a lot of communications on these subjects and many others. Looking at the NHSA web site It seems that the priority issues are Camp Sno-Mo, the Volunteer Bonus Program, the Grass Drags, and Tucker Hibbard's retirement. Back in December 2017 the NHSA put up a story by F&G's Captain David Walsh, where he stressed the importance of maintaining good landowner relationships to keep trails open. Is there an NHSA committee that works on trail closure issues? Does the NHSA consider trail closures to be an equal priority to the Grass Drags, or something less? Would the health of our clubs be more or less important than the Easter Seals Ride-In? Does your club's newsletter discuss the challenges they're facing in maintaining club memberships and the existing trail structure, buying equipment, recruiting volunteers, and raising the funds to do all these things? From my experience, there are some clubs that do that, and many that don't. What does the NHSA think snowmobiling, and our trail system, will look like in 2025? In 2030? And, what could we do, and what are we doing, to preserve what we have as much as possible? The public tends to believe that the subject of our communications represents our priorities, or more simply, we talk about what we believe in, but is that true for the clubs and the NHSA? If so, I should probably make an Easter Seals' donation, volunteer to work the Grass Drags, and get a retirement card in the mail to Tucker Hibbard,
  32. 3 points
    Yikes...the NHSA is giving out blocks of “VD”? Wonder if my med insurance still covers penicillin shots???!!!
  33. 3 points

    North country riding back in the day

    I did a Google search and ended up here. I'd guess that most people that visit this site have already seen this page, and the "Snow Revolution" video link. That video will bring back memories for those that rode sleds 40 years ago, and make today's vintage riders feel right at home. North country riding was a very different experience 40 years ago, and more like the experience that today's off-trail riders are looking for. The problem was the sleds were nothing like today's mountain sleds, and breaking trails after a snowfall was common. A great sport for those people who think getting stuck and unstuck is the best part.
  34. 3 points
    Let's imagine an NHSA affiliated club with 100 total members. The NHSA doesn't require that the members also be NHSA members. Let's imagine that 90 of the 100 members are not NHSA members. Because these 90 people are members of an NHSA affiliated club they qualify for the discount, but will need proof of membership. In the past the club could provide a document stating their membership that was accepted by F&G, but under a proposed change that would no longer be true. The F&G wants to MANDATE that the NHSA must provide the proof of membership, and the NHSA wants to charge the club $10 per transaction to provide that proof and maintain a database of member information. Do you believe that the NHSA can, or should, deny a club affiliation because 100% of the members are not NHSA members? The proposed By-Laws state in Article IV-Membership: "Individual memberships will be a benefit for those who are members in good standing as defined in the NHSA Rules of Business of an affiliated club. Members of affiliated clubs are not required to accept this benefit except as required by club by-laws." From the proposed Rules of Business for member clubs under Membership: "Good Standing- Annual dues are paid; its per membership dues are paid per club agreement" (does this mean that a club pays dues for each NHSA member when they join, but doesn't have to pay the $10 unless the non-NHRA member wants to get a registration discount? Joining a club is not always synonymous with registering a sled or requesting a discount) This goes back to the meaning of a "club membership transaction". The decision-making here is on the part of the F&G who proposed the rules change, and the legislature that will either approve or disapprove that proposal.
  35. 3 points
    I always figure I'm OK as long as I don't have more than three or four bolts left over.
  36. 3 points

    Special Meeting

    It's seems that NHSA is really trying to consolidate the power into the Board. Instead of embracing the membership (clubs specifically) it appears to really be attempting to solidify control and pushing their agenda. I'm really thinking it's time for another association.
  37. 3 points
    2954. Mother Nature had us on a roller coaster, but conditions up north in March were best I've seen in a while. Huge thanks to groomer operators from SDR, GTB, Colebrook, Stratford, and Umbagog for a job well done!
  38. 3 points

    Spotted at a local fundraiser

    I present to you,Senor' El Flower Fellero'
  39. 3 points

    Finishing the Loop

    Yesterday was a for filling day for me. I'm sure like the rest of you. Riding in a loop is satisfying. But you don't always do it in one ride. The trail system we have is brilliant. The hand shaking between the clubs to produce a continuous trail is fantastic. We started in Campton and rode West into higher elevation. Then headed North to Lincoln. Yes Campton is South of Lincoln on Corridor 11, but that is a railed, rail bed and the tracks were exposed. Had some breakfast and topped up on gas in Lincoln. Headed through Franconia Notch and took a left on to Primary 104. Over to Bethlehem and Littleton, where we took a break. We passed right by where Shifty had us meet a few years back on his group ride. Heading South on Corridor 5, we hit North Haverhill. Which is my point of 'finishing a loop'. I had just been to North Haverhill the week before, going North on Corridor 5 from Baker River Club house. Once I hit that familiar spot, I felt like I was home. Granted it was 66 miles away, but I knew the trail. I was complete. My riding partners were ColdBrew (David Bouchard) and Chuck. Primary 152->155->156->11->104->5->156->155->152
  40. 3 points
    Did an easy 40 miles with the family today in/around Campton on CNHSC trails. Overall pretty good conditions. A few thin spots and the beginning of Bald Mtn, just north of Junction T on 155 was thin and muddy as the club reported. But beyond that trails were overall great. LOT of people out there today. Highlight for me was after we got back my 6 year old was FINALLY ready to give the Mini a legitimate go. Got it last March and she has been a bit hesitant to ride it. Today she rode it for nearly 2 hours till it was dry. Apparently she's a pro now...asked "Can I get a bigger one so I can drive it on the trails with you guys!?" Groomer just went by at 8:00 PM...
  41. 3 points

    Major OVSC Trail Closure Detailed

    response from OVSC in today's Laconia Daily Sun! I am the President of the Ossipee Valley Snowmobile Club (OVSC), which is responsible for the trails in the Tamworth area. I am writing in response to the article which appeared in the Laconia Daily Sun on February 16 with regard to snowmobiling in this area. Much of the information referenced in the article is grossly inaccurate. For example: At no time in the past has the OVSC received any complaints from land owners regarding off-trail riding, trespassing, or otherwise abusing the rights of landowners. We have certainly never been informed of anyone “peering into windows” or intruding on anyone’s privacy. In fact, the vast majority of our trails wind through wooded areas and do not encroach on anyone’s residence. We have also not seen any trash of any kind being left on trails. We strive to maintain a good relationship with our land owners, and would expect to be informed by them directly if there were any incidents, and not by a third party. Yet, we have not received even one complaint. With regard to the maps published by the Trails Bureau, when a landowner agrees to having a trail on their property, it becomes part of the state-wide trail system and is then included on the map. However, at no time do we publish or release the names and addresses of any landowner, nor is this information included on any maps. When a landowner agrees to allow a snowmobile trail on their property, they are required to sign a permission form which not only grants permission for the trail, it also provides liability insurance through the state, protecting them from suit should there be an incident on the trail. This policy covers them for the whole year — not just the winter, and for any incident that occurs on the trail. Trails in the Tamworth area are maintained by the Ossipee Valley Snowmobile Club. Volunteers from the club work throughout the year to clear brush and otherwise maintain the trails, which are then available for year-round use. In the winter, the club grooms the trails, for use not only by snowmobilers, but also by snow-shoers, hikers, cross country skiers, and of course dog sleds. In fact, the club prepares the trail for the races that are held in the area, and, after the last race held on February 10, we received many compliments from the dog sledders about the excellent conditions that resulted from our efforts. We have also received many positive comments from local residents and members of the Tamworth Outing Club who also use and appreciate our trails. Mr. Alex Moot, who was quoted extensively in the article, has never communicated with the OVSC and has made some outrageous statements that reflect on the integrity of our club and of snowmobilers in general. To suggest that the trails be closed to all but residents of Tamworth and surrounding towns is a ridiculous statement, especially considering the value of snowmobiling to the state and local economy. We were very disappointed that Mr. Amsden did not give the club a phone call to verify the accuracy of the information, and as a journalist, you would think that he would want to check his facts before publishing. The misinformation that was printed casts a black eye on the OVSC, and on snowmobilers. I appreciate Mr. Amsden’s followup article in (Tuesday's) Sun, clarifying the erroneous information that was published. I would just like to further clarify that Corridor 19 is not the trail that was closed and has not been part of this issue. The trail being closed is known as the Bowles Trail on our club map, and closure of the Bowles Trail results in cutting our system in half. George R. Kaye, President Ossipee Valley Snowmobile Club Ossipee
  42. 3 points
    Good riding yesterday and i stopped on the trail for my usual hot cup of coffee and a lunch of gourmet chicken, apple sausage, green beans and yum-yum. One pot cooking to keep it simple and fast. Enjoyed the solitude of the trails and our great wilderness spaces...because literally there was hardly any traffic. As I am riding I am thinking of a little bit of snow on the way for Saturday night. Sunday morning...Yipee more snow than they had thought(you mean they got it wrong again)...a Fluffy White 6" of majestic frozen bliss!!!! Seems like the site is quiet so I just had to chime in and be POSITIVE. With the warm up ahead hopefully this snow will give us some protection... if people stay of the trails at least in the warmth of the middle of the day this week. We need to protect our future riding investment by being smart in the warm weather...it's still only FEBRUARY.
  43. 3 points

    Major OVSC Trail Closure Detailed

    I hope that the local club decides not to help maintain or groom the trails for the dog sled races in the future.
  44. 3 points

    Major OVSC Trail Closure Detailed

    The wife and I took Friday off after looking at the weekend weather report. We started at Baker river valley's clubhouse and ride all around in both directions. The trails were groomed but the powder loosened up quickly. I had the throttle pinned most of the day because I inadvertently took the "learning" key to the 900 ace which greatly reduces torque and speed to 40mph, 30mph going up hills and if the wind is on my side and down hill, I got it up to 44mph. We did meet a moose right on the trail and go a little nervous when it walked towards us within 20 feet then walked off. Good time though. Saturday, we took the sled to Paugus bay and did some ice fishing. I caught a 3.32# pickerel, not bad.
  45. 3 points
  46. 3 points

    OVSC trail work

    Yesterday the OVSC fielded two work parties. Trail master Mark along with Dex and Paul cleared several major blow downs in our extreme southern section. Meanwhile deep in the woods of Wonalancet at the foot of Mt. Chocorua one current and the two past presidents (George, Dave & Skip) along with Barry and Jim spent 7 hours along Paugus Brook near the Swift River clearing tons of debris left from the last flooding incident. It was extremely hazardous working conditions as the trails at both sites were sheets of ice...but spending a day in the woods with good friends is priceless. And none of us would have wanted to be anywhere else!
  47. 2 points

    Sled would not start

    Pulled the trailer up from the back of the yard last week, charged the batteries. and tried to start them up. The newer sled started and ran like a charm. The older one, my 2003 Polaris Trail Touring 550 would not start. Ran fine when I cleaned it and put it on the trailer in the spring. Has started fine in past years. I remembered a problem that I had with my other Polaris sled a few years ago, also in the fall. Shined a flashlight into the fuel tank, and sure enough, the fuel line had rotted and fallen off where it connects to the fitting that goes through the front of the tank. Same thing happened to the other one a few years back. Went to the local small engine repair shop, got a few feet of Tygon tubing, which is what they use to replace bad fuel lines these days, Pulled the airbox, disconnected the hose from the fitting on the tank, unscrewed the fitting Fished the old hose out of the tank with a bent coat hanger. Connected a new hose to the tank side of the fitting and put it back, fished the new hose end out of the tank, and put the filter back on (filter would not fit through hole in tank). Was going to replace the rest of the fuel lines, but they really looked fine, so I let sleeping dogs lie. Pulled the drain tubes off the bottom of the carbs, they were clean and dry. Put the air box back, and buttoned everything up. Turned the key, and once the carbs primed it started right up and ran like a charm. Moral of the story - if your sled won't start in the fall, and it doesn't seem to be flooding, check the hose inside the tank.
  48. 2 points

    * official old pic thread*

    Love the old pics everyone! Here is one of me sitting on my Elan taking the safety course in 1982. (yes, I think my grandmother made my hat. lol)
  49. 2 points
    Sooooo where are we now after the 4/4 meeting with F&G? Do we need to once again figure out how to proceed with membership business moving forward ? Its getting old trying to come up with a new solution every time the association tries to push there agenda. Why not concentrate on unifying the association and clubs and stop pushing the issue of ultimate control over everything.
  50. 2 points

    New Doo lineup

    More stuff I can’t afford