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  2. So what other snowmobile association in NH is going to raise a concern? A second association competing with the NHSA would raise a flag on a monopoly position provided by the State in violation of Part Second Article 83; but it would probably still need a lawsuit in that many laws that tinge that protection against monopolies are currently enacted and active.
  3. I tried! Yesterday I spent the better part of the afternoon trying to contact Dan Gould. Mass Association Voice Mail, He was listed a Webmaster, tried that e-mail address and 2 or 3 other E-mail addresses connected with Mass Association. It's Saturday June 24th and still nothing. This a copy of the e-mail I sent to several addresses I found. George Higgins <winnocturn1@gmail.com> 3:44 PM (18 hours ago) to sledmass, webmaster Dan, I have tried several ways to contact you this afternoon. I have not gotten any response so far. I feel obligated to make you aware of things that are happening with NHSA that you may not have been told about. George Higgins Membership Chairman Moultonboro Snowmobile Club. Please forward this link on SLedNH to Dan Gould. Does he know what he is getting into with NHSA? Feel free to pass this on to any member or Officer. What next? Is it to late for Dan?
  4. Last Wednesday... note the snowmobiles... in June ! https://youtu.be/gbHhNxjXQqk
  5. Winnocturn, I deleted the duplicate post before John saw your request. It's all good....... path finder#6
  6. Do you mean a License to steal?? I think they have that covered already. They have a couple of experts on that subject. Al Capone would be proud.
  7. I think we need Skip to come back and be the umpire in this game.
  8. Is the Shit that is being splattered because some are so old they forget to wear their Depends? Or is it because the septic tank is overfull with some big turds or hasbeens that just keep resurfacing? I think the official scorecard reads as follows for the last fiscal year: 1) Executive Director resigns 2) Dealer Director resigns after being escorted off Grass-drags property by security/and or police. 3) Club has to hire Lawyer to defend itself from being thrown out of Association because they do not want to be a part of Online Membership Scam any longer. 4) Another club attempts to cut its ties with the Online Membership Scam. Put on notice that action to remove them from Association will be forth coming 5) 4 Complaints to Consumer Affairs officials at Attorney Generals Office resulting in item 3 & 4 being tabled for time being. 6) Club that bought space at Grass Drags shows up at event and are barred from entry unless they are made to violate their own bylaws and force any member to join Association if they buy a club membership at that event.The clubs bylaws and membership program allow an individual to make their own decision on whether they want to join the Association. 7) Hire lawyer to try and get a legal reading of issues regarding membership program. Instead decides to authorize expenditure of up to $15,000.00. The lawyer then files suit against the State of New Hampshire and the Attorney General. 8)Executive Director quits with a week notice. 9) Office personnel quits 10) Vice President resigns with no notice and the Board only hears crickets instead of being put on notice about what happened. 11) Association loses Lawsuit against Attorney General 12) County Director quits 13) One of the Hasbeens signs $325,000.00 contract with landlord without vote of the Board as required by the bylaws. 14) Executive Officers hire new office staff member without vote of the Board as per Bylaws. 15) Executive Officers hire new Executive Director (3rd in less than 9 months) without vote of the Board 16) New Hasbeen elected to Board after calling two Executive Officers and leaving in- appropriate and threatening messages to file complaint with AG or Sec. States Office on their answering machines. 17) Voting on a Rules of Business change to circumvent the bylaws. 18) Treasurer quits as a result of the Hasbeens nasty phone call and subsequent heated exchange at this weeks Board meeting. Very professional considering the new Office Staff members young child was in the room for this performance. 19)One of the Hasbeen's is nominated to become Vice President. Other hasbeens speak up against her and then stop all voting because person not present. Concern over that the Board is appointing the new Vice President and that appointee will be the next President when the sitting Presidents final term in 2019 expires. With the Bylaws not allowing many people to meet eligibility terms, the pool of viable candidates is very small to begin with. My prediction is that a different hasbeen will be appointed to be VP and then become President again when the time comes up. And another hasbeen will become appointed the replacement Treasurer. I know that baseball was brought up so the ironic thing is, that in the suit filed the, Association thinks they should be treated like Major League baseball. They feel the Sherman Act and Anti Trust laws do not apply to them. Guess what they were wrong and the Judge showed them that. They failed to file an Appeal of the Judges decision in the required time-frame so the ruling stays. This scorecard is so long it must have been a double header. I think this will give you an overview of the sporting season. Just think a new starts on July 1st. What type of shenanigans will come next?? The abutting states must be loving this. More people will just say the hell with this foolishness and ride there. Very sad for a sport that is in dire need of help and support to survive in a tough economy. I wonder how the New Executive Director feels about his viewing of this performance on Tuesday night. Must have been wondering what the hell he is getting into. Hope he didn't sell his house in Mass yet.
  9. I didn't know that the NHSA had an army. It's almost always an army colonel that pulls this off, and it doesn't end well for El Presidente, or for the colonel. A coup d'etat implies the overthrow of the existing government by elements of that same government. So, how do we tell the players without a scorecard. I'm confused. What happened at the NHSA meeting? What officer left? Who needs to go away and stay away? What was the agenda item that provoked all this turmoil? Not saying that these "inside baseball" discussions aren't helpful to some, but for those on the outside all they might get is confusion. What happened?
  10. Post moved: Coup d'état at last night's NHSA Monthly Board Meeting and another Officer Quits???? I got off topic while in my original post. This thought just POPED into my head and I did not want to loose it. Sometimes other things bring out other things! WINNOCTURN 3 hours ago, RK-SXViper said: Going to a board meeting reminds me of one of those Gallager shows (sledge o-matic), I need to wear a poncho and bring a tarp so I don't get splattered by the pu pu. On a serious note if things don't get rectified Rockingham county might have NO representation as I won't put up with the crap. Certain people need to just go away and stay away! Rob, Let's get ride of the GAS BAGS, oops I meant the GRASS DRAGS. Why doesn't NHSA get ride of "HANDS ON" connection and "LICENCE" the EVENT? All they need to do is "Sell" the Licensing for a "SET FEE" and a percentage of the GATE? The only cost to NHSA would be having their Auditors on site watching the Money. After it is tallied just ask for the "Gate Percentage $$$ Check" and leave. Get back into STUFF that MATTERS! 1 hour ago, WINNOCTURN said: Rob, Let's get ride oF the GAS BAGS, oops I meant the GAS DRAGS. Why doesn't NHSA get ride of "HANDS ON" connection and "LICENCE" the EVENT? All they need to do is "Sell" the Licensing for a "SET FEE" and a percentage of the GATE? The only cost to NHSA would be having their Auditors on site watching the Money. After it is tallied just ask for the "Gate Percentage $$$ Check" and leave. Get back into STUFF that MATTERS! The Grass drags needs to turn back into a true fundraiser for the clubs and not a fundraiser for NHSA. Currently the clubs are secondary and they need to be primary again. One issue at a time please. 1 hour ago, RK-SXViper said: The Grass drags needs to turn back into a true fundraiser for the clubs and not a fundraiser for NHSA. Currently the clubs are secondary and they need to be primary again. One issue at a time please. Rob, Yes on getting the Funding back to the Clubs. There is no reason why that should not happen enen with this Idea and it could eliminate one of the "PLAYERS"? OK, THAT'S IT! Back to the original Theme of this Thread of WHAT THE HELL IS GOINIG AT NHSA BOARD MEETINGS! EARTH TO BETH
  11. The Grass drags needs to turn back into a true fundraiser for the clubs and not a fundraiser for NHSA. Currently the clubs are secondary and they need to be primary again. One issue at a time please.
  12. No problem, didn't know if you meant to post something else. Appreciate the info.
  13. Going to a board meeting reminds me of one of those Gallager shows (sledge o-matic), I need to wear a poncho and bring a tarp so I don't get splattered by the pu pu. On a serious note if things don't get rectified Rockingham county might have NO representation as I won't put up with the crap. Certain people need to just go away and stay away!
  14. Something went wrong when I saved it ???? I will ask CFK to remove one of the versions. Thanks!
  15. June 20th 2017 Was there an attempted Coup d'état at last night NHSA Board Meeting. Is Captain Queeg taking command of the "SHIP"? Beth what is going on? Another Officer QUITS! Beth you are "PRESIDENT not the other Guy? PAST MEANS PAST!!!! YOU HAVE TO QUELL THIS INCERECTION BEFORE TOTAL CAOUSE TAKES OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With what went on last night and I were the NEW Executive Director I would not put one foot over the Boarder till this is fixed. These words are based on some information that was related to me by a "Trusted Source". If any of this did not happened please correct me! WINNOCTURN
  16. Thanks for the reply, John. I do think that "a different RSA sub-class" is fairly thin soup when it comes to creating a monopoly. It seems that the parent OHRV organization has a mandate to force all riders to join to get a state benefit, as was considered to be the case for the NHSA for many years. Is that monopoly a good idea or a bad idea? There are opinions on both sides. My opinion is that a state discount on vehicle registrations should not be based on membership in a private organization. I don't get a discount on the registration of my pickup truck based on being a member of AAA. If that were true I suspect that some other auto clubs might raise some concerns.
  17. The State could because we are under a different RSA subclass. But in the case of registration, it does not. The difference is that we took the time to think through the process. As I stated, it was not perfect - in that small clubs will pay a greater percentage of membership receipts than large clubs while having less political pull in the Association, and without any basis as to why they would need larger sums of capital. But we feel with the modern communication network that membership will flow to areas that are frequented by the riders, and thus clubs with larger or more advanced economic networks will be larger than clubs with no network or limited economic networks (i.e. food/gas/lodging).
  18. I don't know what will happen with this whole investigation/lawsuit thing, probably more than some people would want, and less than some people think we need, but I do know that we're only 90 days away from the time we should be thinking about sled registrations and club memberships. I do hope that the clubs are prepared to process any early registrations and club memberships, and that they're ready to put those funds to work. Next winter's weather is unknowable, but to have a good winter, and have insufficient funds at the club level to take advantage, would be frustrating. If you're anti-NHSA you have the ability to dedicate your club membership and registration discount money to any club that offers the option of not joining NHSA, and that decision to not join NHSA is a powerful message. (Money talks, BS walks) I believe that this option will continue, although recent changes in the ATV/OHRV membership/registration process are concerning.I don't see how the state can have different rules around two classes of recreational vehicle registrations.
  19. I wonder if the discussion will lead down the path, of why the NHSA failed to file an appeal of the loss of their suit/injunction to the Attorney General, at tonight's Board meeting in Tilton. Should give the new Executive Director a warm fuzzy feeling listening to the excuses given. I guess that the "facts" came out and the Association is not all that protected by the law like they thought they were. All of the statements by Executive Officers about how they would be victorious or were they all just pipe dreams? We had heard at Meetings that the Association was going to file an appeal. Heard that it was voted on to do so. Wonder what happened to following the wishes of the majority? Wonder if the lawyer got paid? Maybe he didn't and that is the reason for failing to file the appeal before the deadline. Could be that the "Leadership" has heard some talk around the water-cooler about maybe they are in some deep shit with the AG's office now that they have pissed in their Cheerios with the suit. I could be wrong about all of it. The sound of the singing of Koom by Ya will drown out any questions tonight. No questions heard may mean no lies will be told. Maybe we will have some info posted tomorrow of what transpired tonight at the meeting of the minds?
  20. I wondered about that. I am guessing the hummers wouldn't drink it, but that may not be the case. Kind of funny that such a tiny animal, and a large one are looking for the same food.
  21. That would probably take care of the bears interest, but probably kill the hummers......... path finder#6
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