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[Skip]

Mark (OVR) is correct, you need a Maine registration to go to Bosebuck.

Maine has written reciprocity out of there snowmobile registration regulations and requires all non-residents to be registered in Maine except for the following specific cooperative trails:

B. A snowmobile registered in this State or in New Hampshire may be operated without further registration requirements on those portions of the Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative trails located in Maine. For purposes of this paragraph, “Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative trails” means:

1. New Hampshire Trail 18 as identified in the Success Pond - Grafton Notch area; and

2. Maine Trail ITS-80 as identified in the Evans Notch area of the White Mountain National Forest.

Regardess of what may or be may not have been stated by a Fish & Game officer, third party heresay claims are no defense if you are caught in Maine without the appropriate registration.

[GSX'ERS]

AGREE WITH YOU ALL......BUT AS A FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY FOR ME TO HIDE BEHIND THE "YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE LAWS"......BUT IF YOU CALLED ME TO YOUR HOME TO INVESTIGATE A CRIME...AND I GAVE YOU TOTALLY WRONG INFORMATION...I AM SURE YOU WOULD QUESTION WHY A PERSON "OF AUTHORITY" AND WHO SHOULD KNOW WHAT HE/SHE IS TALKING ABOUT TOLD YOU THINGS TOTALLY OFF BASE.......I AM NOT TRYING TO OPEN A CAN OF WORMS..AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THE SUBJECT IS SETTLED...YOU NEED A AMINE REG FOR BOSEBUCK...BUT A VTERAN OFFICER WHO IS TEACHING TOTALLY NEW RIDERS SHOULD NOT BE STATING FACTS, LAWS, AND DO'S AND DONT'S IF THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THOSE THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE....PERIOD........

[Skip]

GSX'ERS, on Feb 16 2010, 08:29 AM, said:

AGREE WITH YOU ALL......BUT AS A FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY FOR ME TO HIDE BEHIND THE "YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE LAWS"......BUT IF YOU CALLED ME TO YOUR HOME TO INVESTIGATE A CRIME...AND I GAVE YOU TOTALLY WRONG INFORMATION...I AM SURE YOU WOULD QUESTION WHY A PERSON "OF AUTHORITY" AND WHO SHOULD KNOW WHAT HE/SHE IS TALKING ABOUT TOLD YOU THINGS TOTALLY OFF BASE.......I AM NOT TRYING TO OPEN A CAN OF WORMS..AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THE SUBJECT IS SETTLED...YOU NEED A AMINE REG FOR BOSEBUCK...BUT A VTERAN OFFICER WHO IS TEACHING TOTALLY NEW RIDERS SHOULD NOT BE STATING FACTS, LAWS, AND DO'S AND DONT'S IF THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THOSE THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE....PERIOD........

As a "former law enforcement officer" then you should be familiar with the term "hearsay". And all we have here is third or fourth hand accusations against a Fish & Game officer.

Additionally, as a "former" law enforcement officer then you should be aware of how to have confirmed the need for a registration before ever asking the question here.

But, if indeed the incident did occur as you are alleging then don't you think it wise that you contact Majot Tim Acerno at Fish & Game? Wouldn't it be much wiser to call the Major and correct the situation instead of just complaining about it here?

The Major can be reached by calling 603-271-3129. Let us know how you make out....

[ctcrew]

What's so hot about Bosebuck anyway?

[dualmass]

lack of any other place to go,,,,

[Old Thumper]

ctcrew, on Feb 16 2010, 03:55 PM, said:

What's so hot about Bosebuck anyway?

Historic north woods lodge, great food, nice people, nice sled ride there and back.
What's not to like?

Had dinner there one night last year, and breakfast twice. Great place

[sno-dust]

ctcrew, on Feb 16 2010, 03:55 PM, said:

What's so hot about Bosebuck anyway?

Gas!

[Ajak]

ctcrew, on Feb 16 2010, 03:55 PM, said:

What's so hot about Bosebuck anyway?

Like Old Thump said, "gas and food." I use them all the time because it makes for a great spot to top off before hitting the backcountry and they do have great food. I try to avoid going into Youngs on the weekends mid-day.

[GSX'ERS]

HEY SKIP......FIRST OF ALL I DID NOT ASK OR COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING HERE..I STATED THAT A FISHAND GAME OFFCIER TEACHING A CLASS TOLD MY WIFE AND THE ENTIRE CLASS THEY COULD RIDE TO BOSEBUCK ON JUST AN N.H. REGISTRATION......I WAS THEN TOLD BY OTHERS THAT WAS NOT THE CASE......SO I DO NOT NEED TO CONFIRM ANYTHING (UNLESS I WAS ACTUALLY LEAVING FOR A DAY TRIP AND PLANNED ON GOING TO BOSEBUCK) WHEN A PERSON OF AUTHORITY AND AN INSTRUCTOR SAID THAT IT WAS ALLOWED.......IF YOU ASKED ANY PERSON WHO IS SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING...DO YOU GO OUT AND VERIFY THAT INFORMATION OR DO YOU DEFER TO THE EXPERTS?....THOUGHT SO......AND PLEASE DO NOT PUT THE WORD FORMER IN QUOTES WHEN REFERRING TO MY LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE.....YOU ARE TREADING INTO PERSONAL ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE NO FRAME OF REFERENCE IN THIS DISCUSSION.....BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU I HAVE DONE THINGS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT RISE WAY ABOVE STOPPING SOMEONE FOR A WRONG COLOR STICKER ON THEIR VEHICLE, AND GOING TOO FAST.......AND DURING THAT TIME I NEVER TOLD ANY CITIZEN, WITNESS OR INFORMANT INFORMATION THAT I WAS NOT CLEAR ON OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN...END OF TOPIC, END OF CONVERSATION......

SO YOU CAN CALL MAJOR ACERNO IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO NAME DROP...AS FOR MYSELF I WILL MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS AND LEAVE IT TO YOU TO TRY TO CUT SOMEONE DOWN.....

[Skip]

GSX'ERS, on Feb 19 2010, 09:36 AM, said:

...SO YOU CAN CALL MAJOR ACERNO IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO NAME DROP...AS FOR MYSELF I WILL MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS AND LEAVE IT TO YOU TO TRY TO CUT SOMEONE DOWN.....

Unlike the above individual, I took the time to contact the Officer named and ask him what information he gives out during his portion of the Safety Class in reference to reciprocity, especially regarding Bosebuck & the State of Maine.

The Officer made it clear that Maine had intentionally removed the reciprocity clause with NH some time ago, and there no longer was reciprocity between Maine & NH except for the two clearly designated trails. He stated that he makes this clear during his presentation and further always instructs his students to contact the foreign State they will be riding in to get current and accurate information. He stated that when the Bosebuck question arose he told the class that they would have to check with the State of Maine, as he had no authority to answer questions about Maine regulations. However, he further stated that he knew a Maine registration was necessary to go from the NH border to Bosebuck in Maine. It was clear to me that this Officer has a clear and commanding knowledge of the reciprcoty issues surrounding Maine & NH.

Finally he offered that anyone that came away with different knowledge from that class was clearly confused, but he offered an apology if he in any way inadvertently contributed to the confusion. An officer & a gentleman!

Having to choose between an experienced Fish & Game Officer's version, and that of a anonymous newbie poster who attacks Fish & Game in the first 3 of his 4 posts, I'll go with Fish & Game every time.

Additionally, it only took a matter of minutes to look up and contact the Officer in question, and I salute him for his promptness in getting back to me and taking the time to explain the situation in detail.

Hopefully GSX'ER will "unconfuse" his wife and in the future become a positive influence here and in the snowmobiling community by taking the extra steps to fix or analyze a perceived problem instead of just pointing a finger. That's what separates someone from "law enforcement" from a "law enforcement professional".

Case closed....

almost forgot....the CAP LOCKS KEY is on the left side of your keyboard....in case you were confused....

Edited by Skip, 19 February 2010 - 05:01 PM.

[OldViperRider]

Skip, on Feb 19 2010, 04:53 PM, said:

Unlike the above individual, I took the time to contact the Officer named and ask him what information he gives out during his portion of...............
Case closed....

almost forgot....the CAP LOCKS KEY is on the left side of your keyboard....in case you were confused....

Skip, you always go the extra mile to get to the bottom of the misunderstanding.

Mark

[ctcrew]

Wow, the tears are ridiculous...

[ctcrew]

Ajak, on Feb 17 2010, 12:12 PM, said:

Like Old Thump said, "gas and food." I use them all the time because it makes for a great spot to top off before hitting the backcountry and they do have great food. I try to avoid going into Youngs on the weekends mid-day.

Ya, we used them on our trip to Rangeley from NH for fuel and a quick bite. Reading the original posts about the confusion of going into ME with NH Reg, I just could not understand why there was such an attraction to Bosebuck for fuel or food when you have so many different options in NH. Unless your on a 2-stroke then you need to hit every gas source you can get

[dualmass]

i like the CAPS thing, I don't know why people get pissed at it?
Lets debate the "2 stroke" comment!!

Haha my 2 stroke gets better mileage than my 4 stroker!!

[Ajak]

ctcrew, on Feb 21 2010, 07:47 AM, said:

Ya, we used them on our trip to Rangeley from NH for fuel and a quick bite. Reading the original posts about the confusion of going into ME with NH Reg, I just could not understand why there was such an attraction to Bosebuck for fuel or food when you have so many different options in NH. Unless your on a 2-stroke then you need to hit every gas source you can get

One of the other options closed last year and going into Youngs on the weekend mid-day is a circus full of bozo the clowns. I usually will start down in Errol and come up the east side of the PRR system to avoid going into town....thus the need to stop at Bosebuck.

[Old Thumper]

dualmass, on Feb 21 2010, 09:53 AM, said:

i like the CAPS thing, I don't know why people get pissed at it?

It is supposed to infer that the sender is shouting.
You have kids, you should be up to speed on the latest text ediquette.
GET WITH THE PROGRAM DUALMASS !