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[tchampsnow]

I am excited to say that I am heading up to Pittsburg next weekend with a couple of families. There will be several children and wives that can only "tolerate" so much riding (I know, I don't understand that either). I am looking for a decent trail/loop from/near the Lopstick Cabin area. I would like something that is about 40 miles total with some type of stop for food about half way through. Can anyone recommend a good trail(s)/loop with a place or two where we could stop and have some lunch and some decent site seeing along the way? Their happiness is a direct reflection of my happiness if you know what I mean.

[ct_skidoo]

Grab a map at the front desk. That is a 'short' loop in The Burg.

If you do the loop on Saturday eat at the PRR warming hut:
Take 139N, take a right onto 140 at the next Jct go straight and go onto 147 - keep heading in a north direction. This will loop back to 140. At the 1734 Junction turn left on to 141 over Deer Mountain. Take a right on to 5S. Go to the warming hut and grab a bite to eat at the PRR Warming Hut at Deer Mtn Campground. (do not cross Rt3 if you do you went too far). To head back to your starting location go back on 5N to 141 back over Deer Mountain. Take a left onto 140 and follow that back to 139.

Edited by ct_skidoo, 06 February 2010 - 07:40 PM.

[motie777]

I'll probably get flamed for saying this but on Saturdays I would recommend heading south away from Pittsburg, If you care about you family.

[ct_skidoo]

Next weekend will be chaos no matter... Hoping the west side of 3 is more tolerable for them.

[tchampsnow]

ct_skidoo, on Feb 7 2010, 07:28 AM, said:

Next weekend will be chaos no matter... Hoping the west side of 3 is more tolerable for them.

Any hints why? School vacation week or something else? I know that it isn't for V-day! :-)

-Tim

[ct_skidoo]

Yes mostly school vacation week starts for some of the NE states and the Presidents day weekend. You'll be fine just more sleds on the trails the last 2 weeks of February. Chaos may be a little strong but busier is more like it.

[bakersnow]

Maybe you are used to northern riding, but if not you may find they can take a few more miles up there. If the trials are in good shape you may find 20 miles an easy goal before lunch, even with the kids. We have stayed at lopstick for several years and really like it there. Good luck and have fun.

[Pantera99]

tchampsnow, on Feb 6 2010, 04:53 PM, said:

I am excited to say that I am heading up to Pittsburg next weekend with a couple of families. There will be several children and wives that can only "tolerate" so much riding (I know, I don't understand that either). I am looking for a decent trail/loop from/near the Lopstick Cabin area. I would like something that is about 40 miles total with some type of stop for food about half way through. Can anyone recommend a good trail(s)/loop with a place or two where we could stop and have some lunch and some decent site seeing along the way? Their happiness is a direct reflection of my happiness if you know what I mean.

Hi Tchamp... some of they guy's are saying stay to the west of rte 3, not totally sure about that one... anyway's... a while back we started talking about the "Grandview" and for up that way and you taking wive's and kid's...might be a pretty good intermission stop. Plenty of space out of the way for sleds and take in a gourgoues view... rather than down on the flat just looking at sleds pass by...here is the thread we had...it has some pretty good info ,pic's and a push-pin map...they may get a kick out of the Cat up on the flag pole, the snack shack I believe has no-inside seating this year but the view and quick stop if not to cold out for the kid's will be worth the short ride... not only that, but if it is cold, you'd be heading toward coleman park area anyway's and stop in at there clubhouse fuel ect... check clubhouse hours !!!and the snack shack hours... plenty of trails for any type of loop...

http://www.slednh.com/forums/index.php?sho...t=0&start=0

Edited by Pantera99, 07 February 2010 - 11:29 AM.

[ct_skidoo]

Was trying to keep him under the 40 mile total, experience the Warming Hut and not put them through the heavy travelled areas of 139/140 through town.

But it is true IMO that if you can head towards the SDR system the traffic seems to dispurse more.

Edited by ct_skidoo, 07 February 2010 - 12:36 PM.

[tchampsnow]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I can't wait to get up there and do some riding. It sure has been limited this year with a lack of snow (and no lack of rain!). We will be up there through Monday (and part of Tuesday) but with vacation week (and holiday for some), it will be busier than normal.

-Tim

[Ajak]

What about a ride over to Bosebuck for lunch? They have gas there too. Prolly about 25 miles one way......some of the best trails in the whole system IMO and usually less traffic. The only problem, Bosebuck can be quite busy for lunch between 12-2. Try to get there before or after that time. Heck you can even jump out onto 1st Conn and cut some miles.

[OldViperRider]

Ajak, on Feb 7 2010, 02:39 PM, said:

What about a ride over to Bosebuck for lunch? They have gas there too. Prolly about 25 miles one way......some of the best trails in the whole system IMO and usually less traffic. The only problem, Bosebuck can be quite busy for lunch between 12-2. Try to get there before or after that time. Heck you can even jump out onto 1st Conn and cut some miles.

To go to Bosebuck you must be registered in Maine before your skis hit the border. The price for registering the sleds would be a little steep for lunch.

Mark

[ct_skidoo]

They still logging off ITS84?

[OldViperRider]

ct_skidoo, on Feb 7 2010, 03:40 PM, said:

They still logging off ITS84?

YES!

Mark

[GSX'ERS]

ACTUALLY I WAS TOLD YOU CAN GO TO BOSEBUCK WITHOUT A MAINE REG., MY WIFE IS NEW TO SNOWMOBILING THIS YEAR...SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR HER TO ATTEND A SAFETY CLASS.....SHE DID..ABOUT FIVE WEEKS AGO..DURING THIS CLASS SHE WAS TOLD DIRECTLY BY A FISH AND GAME OFFICER...THAT IF YOU HAVE A NEW HAMPSHIRE REG. YOU CAN GO AS FAR INTO MAINE TO BOSEBUCK..AND AS FAR INTO VERMONT TO CANAAN WITHOUT HAVING A REG. IN THOSE STATES....THE RATIONALE FOR THIS IS THAT THOSE ARE THE CLOSEST STOPS FOR GAS ETC......SO WE PLAN ON DOING A BOSEBUCK RUN TOGETHER WITH NH REG. ONLY....I AM SURE FISH AND GAME WOULD NOT SAY YOU CAN IF YOU COULD'NT.......THE SAME DEAL AS CANADA BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE SECOND TOWN W/O A CANADIAN TRAIL PASS..BUT NO FURTHER.......

[Skip]

GSX'ERS, on Feb 12 2010, 09:49 AM, said:

...ACTUALLY I WAS TOLD YOU CAN GO TO BOSEBUCK WITHOUT A MAINE REG...

There was a miscommunication somewhere because you cannot go to Bosebuck unless you are registered in Maine. There is no exception for "gas stations".

New Hampshire does not share reciprocity with Maine or Vermont except under several exceptions that are clearly designated within the Fish & Game portion of their Administrative Rules. These exceptions are known as Cooperative Trails. Furthermore the State of Maine, by statute, only designates two short areas of trail systems where they will allow a New Hampshire only registered sled. I have highlighted the only exception areas in red in the below copy of the Maine statute covering reciprocity:

7. Snowmobiles of nonresidents; Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative Trails. Except as specifically provided in this subsection and notwithstanding any other provision of law, a snowmobile belonging to a nonresident may be possessed or operated by any person in this State as long as the snowmobile is properly registered in this State in the name of a nonresident owner of the snowmobile. Nothing in this subsection authorizes the operation of a snowmobile in a manner contrary to this chapter.

A. A nonresident is ineligible to obtain a resident registration for a snowmobile owned by that nonresident. Snowmobiles and grooming equipment registered to federal or state entities, snowmobile clubs, municipalities or counties from bordering states or provinces and engaged in trail grooming may be operated without being registered under this subsection. Snowmobiles registered in either New Hampshire or Canada may be operated on any lake or pond that is partly in both the State and New Hampshire or Canada without being registered in the State.

B. A snowmobile registered in this State or in New Hampshire may be operated without further registration requirements on those portions of the Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative trails located in Maine. For purposes of this paragraph, “Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative trails” means:

1. New Hampshire Trail 18 as identified in the Success Pond - Grafton Notch area; and

2. Maine Trail ITS-80 as identified in the Evans Notch area of the White Mountain National Forest.

C. Snowmobiles registered in another state or in a Canadian province may be operated without a Maine registration at a special event or festival organized to occur in this State if such operation is approved by the commissioner. An event or festival organizer must submit a request in writing to the commissioner at least 60 days prior to the event or festival and shall include a map of trails where operation will be allowed.

Reimbursement for grooming and maintenance services on these trails may be through direct cash payments by users of the Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative Trails or through in-kind services. The costs of grooming and maintenance must be based on the average per mile costs to Maine and New Hampshire of providing these services.

Signs on Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative Trails. The Director of the Off-Road Vehicle Division of the Bureau of Parks and Lands within the Department of Conservation shall work with the director of New Hampshire’s snowmobile program to develop and place signs clearly identifying the Maine-New Hampshire Cooperative trails as defined in the Maine Revised Statutes, Title 12, section 13104, subsection 7.

[Pantera99]

I have wondered about that ... the Maine reg' to Bosebuck. is there a co-op sign there for just going there for fuel & lunch ? ONLY !!! like the sign's that are SUPPOSE to be displayed at trail 18 & ITS 80 ...I haven't ridin those area's so I haven't seen the sign up-close & personal... Only heard about it...

I had heard ( a officer F&G ) say we need to have a Maine reg' unless otherwise specified. I would like to see it in writing...

[OldViperRider]

Pantera99, on Feb 12 2010, 01:31 PM, said:

I had heard ( a officer F&G ) say we need to have a Maine reg' unless otherwise specified. I would like to see it in writing...

Nothing against NH F&G, but not all of their officers know the details of Maine snowmobile regulations. Maine F&G officers do check the trail over to Bosebuck on a regular basis for NH registered sleds without Maine registrations. As a resident (20 years) of Pittsburg I know for a fact, that you MUST now have a Maine snowmobile registration to have lunch at Bosebuck. Do an on line search and check the Maine snowmobile regulations.

Mark

[GSX'ERS]

WELL THANKS FOR THE REPLIES......I ALWAYS KNEW YOU NEEDED A MAINE REG TO GO TO BOSEBUCK FROM NH.......BUT LIKE I SAID MY WIFE ATTENDED A SAFETY COURSE JUST LAST MONTH AND WAS TOLD DIRECTLY BY NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME OFFICER CHRIS MCKEE...THAT A NEW HAMPSHIRE REGISTERED SLED COULD GO AS FAR AS BOSEBUCK IN MAINE FOR GAS/FOOD.......IF THIS IS NOT TRUE THEN NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME NEEDS TO MAKE SURE ALL THEIR REPS GIVING THESE CLASSES......TO PEOPLE NEW TO SNOWMOBILING.........HAVE THE CURRENT PROPER INFORMATION BEFORE GIVING IT TO THE PUBLIC....NOT SURE IF THAT AGENCY WANTS TO PAY DOZENS OF TICKETS PEOPLE ARE AT RISK OF GETTING BY GOING TO BOSEBUCK BASED ON INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED THAT WAS FLAWED......

[Pantera99]

well... The F&G officer would be covered no-matter what...as it is up to the Registar'r of the snowmobile to know the Law's ...and also the person's riding a borrowed sled ...
I had heard you needed a Maine Reg...and read that at one point. Also heard/knew of the trail 18 connection between state border's...but they also agreed' that they would watch it very closely, for individuals deciding to seek more trail milage in either state...

Edited by Pantera99, 15 February 2010 - 01:21 PM.