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#21 wigga

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:56 PM

I have the shaper bars on the 09 etec with stock 4 on the outside and same on my 06 rev work great on these machines.

I have the Bergstrom triple points on the 08 vector gt, ski saver and shimmed and also dialed the suspension they work awesome.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 06:47 PM

Sweet to get all this info! I went with the slim jim's! I'll let you know how I make out, I don't see an 800 getting or feeling to dragged down but I can be wrong, an often have been! lmao!
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 07:08 PM

i put the 6 inch slim jims on my 07 f-6 and my girlfriends 08 f-5 , best runners ive used to date !!!!!! 102 studs on each sled, no darting at all !!!!and it turns,lol !!!!! thanks hondafixer for the info !

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:20 PM

Be sure that your toe out is set to about 1/8" to 1/4", this will be the most help for darting.

I have used alot of different runners, but find that the Shaper bars are the best. Have also used Woody's straight snocross bar with good luck, but they are harder to steer.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:23 PM

View PostOld Thumper, on Jan 26 2009, 12:12 PM, said:

Before you toss the stock carbides, jack up the front of the sled so the skis are off the ground. You want the front of the ski to be tipped up when it is not supporting the sled. If it's not, then you add shims under the rubber bumpers in the ski saddle to force the front of the ski upward. That and making sure that the toe is set correctly (see your manual) should take care of most darting problems.

I'm running Bergstrom's triple point carbides. They are excellent, and his web site has a lot of info regarding darting and sled setup.
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Do they truly last longer as advertised? Bergstroms are 2-3X more than standard runners.......They would need to last 3 seasons to be worth it IMO.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:53 PM

View Postjay, on Jan 28 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

Thump,

Do they truly last longer as advertised? Bergstroms are 2-3X more than standard runners.......They would need to last 3 seasons to be worth it IMO.

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I have over 2,000 miles on mine and they still turn like new. :good:

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 01:10 PM

It all depends on what you are riding on, and how often you cross roads.

The pair on my Vmax went 2+ years but I also sharpened them up a couple times with a diamond wheel.
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 01:12 PM

View PostOldViperRider, on Jan 28 2009, 12:53 PM, said:

I have over 2,000 miles on mine and they still turn like new. :good:

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View PostOld Thumper, on Jan 28 2009, 01:10 PM, said:

It all depends on what you are riding on, and how often you cross roads.

The pair on my Vmax went 2+ years but I also sharpened them up a couple times with a diamond wheel.


Thanks guys.........may give them a shot the next time I need them. However, I'm sure that I do cross more roads and ride in lower snow conditions more that you do.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 04:18 PM

View PostRad8165, on Jan 26 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

Any chance you will sell me a Mad Whopper? lmao!

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 04:25 PM

View PostBaron62, on Jan 26 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

Here is my 2 cents. I have tried dualies and they are great for reducing darting, but now you are distributing the ski pressure to 2 cutting edges with half the load on each. The result is fine but you do get some push in the corners. I feel that if you want the best traction in a turn you want one long carbide. I prefer the long (7-9 inch) shaper bars on stock skis and 5-6 inch on after market skis like C&A or others. This also reduces darting.

My own opinion, I disagree. I run 146 picks and have done both. One season I ran 8 inch single carbides, darted everywhere! Next season I went bigger with 10 inch carbides, and still darted. I played with limiter straps, played with shock settings, and still was ALL OVER the trails. Threw the Dooly's on last season... handles like a Ferrari!
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